Honghua (poll and discussion thread)

Yes, I intend for that to be one of many ideas being thrown out there of which they pick multiple to implement

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She needs something better to survive long enough to make any clones and do something. She can only kill into the clone on the first turn, her SS is locked when other copies are on field, but she needs other copies to do any sweeping. Make it make sense.

Hear me out… scrap the whole thing and try again :joy:

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I’m assuming the Devs are making Mythics with an entrance theme and rebirth atm.

Funny and sad how Bridalith has two unique passives while Honghua doesn’t (unless you count lava entrance+). She’d be more usable if she had Mark Sentinel and Swift Ultrablaze (All) or something assuming we want to keep a similar theme with Bridalith.

If they want to keep that Lava Entrance+, then make that Assisted Blaze (All) into something faster, and let her rebirth with other copies on the field. Then you can use those rebirth and entrances to kill off enemies, and 34 speed won’t allow you to spam it too much.

212tu skill on the mythic, just one sweep skill wtih limited uses!! and you have to first let her live long enough to kill one of your monsters to really do ■■■■.

You should tell about your expierence with her since you were the one using her for rank.


I used these two teams throughout this past season and I have to say that she’s more of a liability/novelty than helpful. It’s fun if you get her going but rough if you don’t.

First team, I used a lot of mons that could make targets for Soral/Honghua to convert off of without going net minus one. Great or bad for getting rid of shields, stealth, sleep, tokens on your side of the field to prevent potential targets for stealthbane or bridalith. Gives an easy target for the opponent to retribution or (dual) slayer you though. If she’s put out of play for any reason, I usually just Ritual VI or convert her to a Soral baby. Great use of 17 cost I know :upside_down_face:

Second team, I went with a more conventional link fire team. You could potentially sweep with Honghua if everything lines up but there are better options to use that’s not slow and 17 cost and could benefit more from Novemdomia.

You’re better off using Ahuizard, Volcaiga, Hellfox and/or Raidkong for lava entrance instead. My win rate dropped from 77% pre-season to like 73% after including her in my team so there’s that.

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Great summary of this entire thread.

I think what would scare me most about wanting to be able to use Honghua in any reasonable capacity is this:

She’s so bad. Sooooo bad. And mythics that were this bad at release (tbh, nothing has been this bad, but you get the idea) took FOREVER to get a fix. And when they do get a fix, it’s often incrementally over a year+.

So even the silver lining of “Surely she’ll get a buff” is damped by the fact that it’ll take until July 2024 to see any real reward for getting her.

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Yeah, look at Vixian. I’ve been using her before her buff for over a year. If not one year maybe two before we see any meaningful changes or buffs to Honghua.

As she stands now, she’s just fun to use casually and extremely satisfying when pulling off her gimmick. I have a lot of tools others don’t have to make her “work” so that probably doesn’t do her favors being a festival egg that a lot of newer accounts roll on.

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AI :face_with_peeking_eye:

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:laughing:

Now I saw what that SS is for, if the fresh copy dies, the original one can rebirth to reset use on mirror sacrifice so it won’t become a deadweight with pure cure and 212tu blaze. That being said, she has no real survivabilaty to start sweeping and her entrance is just awful.

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I reckon devs will buff her and we’ll all be like nooooo I should have got her :joy:
Hope the second banner is good.

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I dunno. Pandamonium was truly terrible when it was first released.

Hope they will make her usable in upcoming update

Context of mythics, not every mon!

You aren’t wrong though :joy:

Honghua’a AI takes out Plumesilisk too sometimes even when there are valid targets on the field. Might be coded to target stun absorbers/counters in higher priorities.

Lava Entrance+ is fine on her since it clears all deadweight tokens on your team whether you want or not (can be counter productive if you’re trying to mirror curse it). The devs could keep the passive and make it unique by adding a new line to it like “If at least 1 ally was killed by this entrance, then a clone of Honghua gets placed next in line of your reinforcements.” Could make it a clause where this will only happen once per match to avoid abuse with Flaming Rebirth.

She’s still fun the way she is though even if she’s not the best 17 cost mon to use in PVP. I’m going to try and top 50 with her again this next season now that I know a little bit more of how to use her.

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Take out all your busty myth and then use honghua to reach top 50. Always think for all. Even u fit honghua in ur team with all your myth spam you will likely to top 50.
And hoghua is useless. So don’t give credit for what she don’t.