Idk man, it’s a good support and does disruption but it isn’t even stun immune and has no offensive options at all. It’s just great because of the low cost. It’s definitely not mythic level.
He meant mythic level for pvp and I have to agree with him.
Literally everyone thinks maple with boost is mythic power level but you lol
You might find it’s quite the opposite. If too many people starting using Nyx you will see a massive rise in Kattmander and Unicera FL. You either hide her behind protectors and get smashed or you will get one shot by Katt anyway. Nyx works effectively now because 99% of people are not building to counter it as it’s a rare monster.
Everyone = like 4 people 
This is what I agree with. What makes it “strong” is the low cost.
we agree mapple is not a mythic level. I don’t think it resists my seaguard. the only one who really has a great level is dreadmoth, but again he becomes so fragile once transformed
I don’t want to be rude, but you don’t play that much pvp don’t you @Exu ?
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Those 4 people = actual pvp players
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Those 4 people are trying to get Maple nerfed sadly
Was it harder to kill?
This photo makes me unbelievably happy! Pyramid golems are awesome and Neromid will be amazing with extra HP as long as you meet a holy enemy!
Don’t know if you’re considering it or if it’s slipped your mind, but the defence works exactly the same between SEs and mythics so the only difference between them is the 2k HP, which is exactly what the HP boost gives. So once boosted they literally tank like a mythic.
Therefore, the only difference in stats is whether they need their attack. Mapledragon doesn’t, Vulpink doesn’t except that it takes longer to charge crescendo, Shieldragon just takes an extra energy charge (non-issue once it can charge in 20TU) and the A.S. I mentioned deal easy one-shot damage if with the lone fish buff. That’s why I picked those ones to list.
Are their movesets as good and diverse as mythic movesets? That’s obviously debatable but for Mapledragon and Dreadmoth I’d say yes and probably Vulpink too. Considering the 10 cost I’d say the ones I listed are better than the majority of the mythics.
P.S. Just read the other posts about Maple. @Exu Maple is 100% a top moveset. It disrupts the opponent on entry, is hard to kill thanks to full defence + stealth and can take control of the battle as soon as it gets a turn because it will begin sleeping all the enemies. The other moves give it great flexibility so if you cannot sleep lock then you’re getting turns with your best monster, still putting one enemy out of play or countering HG, shields etc.
The way it plays is better than it may first appear because of the Bronzeshell next in line, meaning you temporarily have nothing to save you from the control. Mapledragon is a must-kill threat or else it takes over the match and it’s basically the hardest to kill a SE can be. So give it mythic HP and suddenly yeah it’s a strong mythic for 10 cost.
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I feel like the issue here is mapledragon instead of HP boost being 2000 for SEs. Maybe it needs more nerfing? Because I can’t think any high amount meta mythic owners spending their HP boost on an SE when mythics like Bastia, Charypdia, and Camilla take advantage of it 500 HP more effectively than SEs of 2000 HP.
I feel like you’re ignoring the cost, a S+ SE with the boost like maple can be slotted into almost every team, as a 10oost myth. I would 100% boost maple over a myth currently, it makes the overall team way stronger
Well I had piercing skills so not really but it’d a real problem to deal with him by using normal skills.
Skill issue
Also everyone acknowledged already that maple is the big problem. I can’t imagine anything else being as good. mythics cost 14 to 17 which isn’t so hard to manage when you basicly get tanks that also have insane sweeping ability. Have you faced a full mythic team at the first 8 unit FL of a competent player? It’s feels like I’m watching a video because I never get to do anything and bam I lost all of my team 
Not complaining about mythics, just pointing the fact that mapledragon is only as good as the mythics it gives turn to and the only one here that seems to be complained about lol
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I don’t like the idea of nerfing, I’ve always thought that in this game they are a bit excessive with this. It’s true that Mapledragon will now be harder to kill with 2k extra health, but it’s still a monster with weaknesses to Toxic Killer, Temporal Killer, Dreamer Killer, and Stun Killer. It is better to seek to balance the game by improving old and useless monsters than to continue nerfing and condemning excellent monsters to oblivion. I don’t see that increasing the life of any monster is unfair because we all have the same opportunity to give orbs and use them.
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70tu sleep
50tu stun pulse
Those on a motor wanna be monster with give turn, good defense its the recipe to disaster. He has ALLWAYS something to offer. 70% of legendarys even mythics dont.
And getting sleep lock by that thing alone isnt funny at all
Sleep on SE should be 100 tu the same treatment has stealth 70tu on legends and 100tu on SE
Just saying
So It doesn’t matter what the defense value is? Full defense SE equals full defense mythic? 4,5k Def equals 7k def?