Assisted and Link together

Greetings to all. I was thinking about the abilities that cause more damage when it has the same element, that is, the Assisted. I was watching Mojinator, his secret ability is Link stun Flash, and his attack is also Assisted Nova. I propose that the Devs grant Heavenswrym, Midasdragon, Esmeraldeus, Penguinator … the ability of Assisted. Because their Secret Skill forces them to be accompanied by mosnters with the same elements to have better use. The aforementioned are Link in their SS, but they do not have the Assisted in their attack. In my opinion, I believe that monsters that require Link, as well as Azuraids, Ashterios … should have Assisted. There are monsters that Link doesn’t have in their abilities and, however, they have Assisted, just like Mechaviatan. Deluga, he doesn’t have Link, so he’s fine with his normal attack. But Heavenswrym I think Assisted Nova should have. What do you think?

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It is my personal belief that assisted thunder all for penguinator is the best idea since giving stun counter to delugazar.

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I actually agree. giving link for those may increase their use in pvp.
At least i hope

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wait. is delugazer getting a stun counter?

I genuinely think assisted nova would be a downgrade for Heavens. Her current aoe is unique in that it’s “weaker” than usual, with less damage and a whopping 90 less TU. With it she can go on poking duty, removing stealth/shield/hg from all 4 monsters at once while only barely creeping into timestrike range; it’s more efficient than a 50 TU single attack, and the enemies don’t have to wait their turn. Heavens is a support monster through and through, so it makes perfect sense to give her a support oriented aoe. Trying to make her more offensive would not end well in the slightest, with an attack stat like that I doubt it’d be much better than a generic aoe. Survivor more than covers what little offensive capabilities she needs, boasting just enough power to pick off frail yet vital targets.

@Gentle6789 lol no he’s just saying that if delu were to get stun counter it’d be about the same level of busted as peng with an assisted aoe.

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Regarding Penguinator, not that no. Because it has excessive Strength

As for everything else… while I do get your sentiment, assist and link don’t need to be mutually inclusive. Bear in mind that giving a monster an additional option to work with can pressure that monster into choosing it over their existing options. Midas could certainly make stuff happen with an assisted aoe, but that would mean less opportunity to make use of GT, TT and box planting(remember, you can’t give him his turn back if his SS is turned on, which it undoubtedly will be if you’re running link). Emeraldeus is definitely the strongest case you’re making atm, it’d be a nice way to charge bloodfury; but still, I feel like it’d often be more worthwhile to either use retribution, or use accelerate while waiting for ret to be charged.

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Yes. Let’s take Esmeraldeus, it’s true that he has a lot of damage. However, remember that in PvP and PvE, there is always something that you need from Assisted. Heavenswrym is weak, almost nobody uses it. It is not immune to anything. Therefore, I hope that Midas and Heaven give them Assisted. No one gives them almost use, let alone with monsters like the Dinosaur and new ones. I’ve noticed that Neo players only use Assisted when they start a new game, when using the guardians. Or rarely with Novadrake in FL

It is quite a shame how the assisted archetype has been treated. Aside from water and storm’s commanding presence at the game’s launch, assisted strats have always been underwhelming at best, held back by its incredibly high TUs and weakness to stealth and shields, as well as the way it restricts team building. There have been a few one off successes, most notably @Xyzencross’s brilliant use of Nox, and of course Nova in general. I suppose it’d be nice to see it gain a bit of traction for once, and I’m certainly not inherently opposed to the idea of gentle buffs to long forgotten monsters; I just feel that trying to give brand new roles to mons that already have their own well established isn’t quite the right way to go about it.

(I haven’t read all the posts here, just replying to the OP)
Penguinator and Heavenswyrm I wouldn’t change. Peng has excessive force so we don’t want it doing 2700 piercing damage to all enemies. Heavenswyrm has a low TU hit all which is extremely useful, it would be bad to lose that.

As for Midasdragon, Emeraldeus and generally how link monsters should have assisted moves I kind of agree. As long as it doesn’t give an unintended use to the monster then it’s nice to have a more viable basic move for a monster. However, I also like it when non-link monsters have an assisted move. They typically don’t need to be in link teams to be viable but they get a little extra boost when they are.

So I would say that for EVERY monster:
“As long as it doesn’t give an unintended use to the monster then it’s nice to have a more viable basic move. Some monsters need to have a basic move to keep them powered down, e.g. Goldtail, so it makes sense not to have assisted moves there too.”

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Indeed, Goldtail is a shining example of the fact that having options isn’t everything. Potent Sleep is the only real asset she has, and besides that (and her SS I guess), her moveset is bland and just downright pathetic, not to mention her stat distribution really couldn’t be any less ideal. But Potent sleep alone has far more than enough value to rival full sized movesets all by itself. Hence she remains a viable threat despite having no versatility whatsoever.

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I agree too

@NMEduck don’t given stun counter to delu

Yeah, you are right.I agree about Penguinator. But, Heavenswrym, why not give him his Assisted? From the beginning, it’s made for Link of Light. You can also change the ability to Heal to Link Healing Light

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It only became link when the SS was added. Link healing light would restrict it so much. Currently it’s basically the game’s best healer, boasting both camouflage and a repeatable 100TU full heal move.

The main strength of Heavenswyrm comes from its versatility. It offers a number of useful support moves and 160TU hit all is surprisingly useful. Other monsters have more powerful or lower TU hit all but they don’t also have stun, healing, shielding and sweeping. Heavens would benefit from a couple of buffs but making the hit all assisted would be a nerf more than a buff. It’s just my opinion but a few people who own it, have used it lots and love it seem to have the same opinion so I feel fairly confident saying this.

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Ok

No all these piss poor “excess force” mons need all they can get. Penguinators so weak it has to be used in the back of ur team and it just dies to literally every player with eyes bc they can see it coming and destroy it. Needs a speed buff and deal more dmg with aoe. Delgauzar is even worse it doesnt have weak to stun its weak to sleep its weak to poison all those stuff can kill it. Atleast they should give it an ability to get turns when their is stun so it can deal more damage. They should also give heavenwyrm assisted aoe but at a lower tu bc it doesnt have a stun counter or excess force

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Hey man if you’re going to troll make it a bit more obvious :wink:

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I’m touched that you still remember me ;*

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