yes payback sorry for my English, there will always be a marked monster since its entry already causes a death sentence
Can someone definitely confirm this?
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It is a key aspect of Luminalus, if it is not affected by Payback Killer it is very important to know, in addition to that, the double revenge of Primpegasus, if it only has one objective, who is it capable of killing?
Yet another inexplicable update. None of the concerning monsters were addressed. Random rule got rid of most of the E.D.s for ranked but we are poised to see the same lack of diversity once itās back to normal.
Selene not getting a nerf is another mind boggling decision.
Arenāt devs playing PVP to understand that battles are being decided by whose E.D. or Selene move first?
I canāt wait for you to get Cyclophina and then playing a few times with her just to decide to go back to mythic spam because you have better options.
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You will see me use her and kill 4 monsters in less than 200 seconds ignoring AP and revenge no weaknesses and defense buff
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It should have been expected. Its exstremly rare for monsters to get tweaked the first update after release as devs want to see them run rampant in the wild for a wile first. Normaly if a nerf or a buff is warrented it happends the second or third update after release. Or was i the only one who expected this?
The fact ED spam is not adressed at all in this update 
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Do you know if luminalus is affected by payback killer?
you are the only player who has that monster 
It is. But now even if it gets knocked back his entrance death sentence still will go off.
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only one of them right? the sentence when he enters
Not sure, some of those monsters warrant a nerf not only because they are OP, but mostly because they are making meta very repetitive. I canāt stand another E.D. spam/gravity spam season where it feels like you are playing the same 3 players over and over again. I can see another pointless restriction list/weird rule on the way though.
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Then think of it like this
Go awaken Deus X he counters EDs and will make for diversity in playstyle the coming season
You are welcome the ED counter hath been created
As for selene we have a bunch of inosimania and sleep immune monsters thats quite good making OoO harder to pull of
Countering E.D. is not the problem. Playing against the same 3 teams is my issue.
A Deus X in every team would also be just as bad.
There is like 5 people who owns him you will not see him often
And there is so many ways to counter these strats so you gonna see copy paste from mid players and diversity from everyone else
But thats how its always been this season is gonna be no diffrent
In all the years of this game we have seen it time and time again. Someone creates something that works. Everyone piles onto that team. Take ducky with link fire a few years back
They are marketing Deus as ED counter instead of balancing them out - that untargetable mechanic from the start of the battle that lasts for almost entire match is ā ā ā ā ā ā ā stupid.
Not weakening the ED will make the game boring again, there will only be two types of teams, ED team and anti ED team, seriously, why do you want that? @Dev_VKC
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Will Primpegasusās double revenge kill everything? @killerdog
They are giving 1 gem for reading showdown tower girl introduction abt herself ,u have to read it 3 times and there will be different msg every time,
@IBERIAN Just edited the above post because I realised I could test it in SCB
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