the reason why robinator is not s, and I think most people will back me on this is because theres often times where there are no protectors and then hes very very difficult to set up. And besides, higher up, even if there is a protector assassinate does puny damage
Maybe the super epic protectors can go down a tier only because the epic ones get the job done. But everyone need a stun absorber with hg in their line up
And the epic throw/bloodcrave monsters are a and not s because over 160 you can harldy get a kill with throw. Once you do get a kill they hardly one hit with one-kill-bloodcrave and by the time they can start sweeping they are dead
The reason why epic stun bombers are s is because the stun immune ones are stun immune, extra stun(50sec), extra stunner, and because it’s good to get as many stunners as you can
And the epic stun bomb/sleep bombers are for sure s because they extremely versatile. You can stun, give turn and you can sleep bomb if your mons are poisoned
And in regards to making separate lists for sweepers and supporters, its a good idea but I think most ppl have that much basic knowledge to know not to pick all support or all sweepers
SE twin killers should be S.
timestrike and sleep killer are way too good
but on higher levels their damage isn’t that great anymore, for some protectors you still need 2-3 attacks, because of those ridiculously high buffs
that being said, they are still awesome up onto a certain level and if I see one, most of the times I also pick it
the timestrike is definitely worth it, the sleep/protector killer not so much later on - but they lack HG and that can mean a nasty oneshot, if the opponent’s buffed sweeper ist faster than you
what i do with protectors is use a stun burst timestrike.
he one shoots sleep monsters with 0-1 stars even at higher lvl.
but he still gets oneshot himself by a 4+ star sweeper at higher levels, because he has no HG, compared to some other timestrikers, who do have HG + poison revenge (which can be handy against some revenge passives)
just saying, those SE dual killers are great, but also have drawbacks, obviously - no mon is perfect
If lady luck shines on me, I try to have 1 timestriker with HG and poison revenge and 1 timestriker with dual killers for my IC frontline, but ofc that rarely happens 
all you need is one se twin killer last stand and knock back and all the rest are stun burst booms thats enough for ic.
I prefer 2 timestrikers in my FL, so I get more timestrikes per burst/bomb, but like I said, that is my personal preference
Yeah thanks for agreeing to most part and yes epic cravers are only good to kill low defense monsters at high levels so I leave the epic and se ones to dreamhunt through sleep bomb.
Though I do have to disagree with you first calling it good idea and then not making different lists, my point if you pay attention is that sweepers and supporters if separated would make a more accurate lists,and if anyone is good enough to justify I don’t think he even needs a list for help, so I would appreciate if you atleast specify those 