Forced engagement for the gem now, as opposed to having a way to shortcut it before 
Alright, you had a shortcut and it no longer exists. Thatâs how it should be from the start.
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Absolutely!
Yeah, itâs just too bad for anyone who is complaining about the daily gem/missions. If you want the gem, then work for it. If youâre a pvp main who wants every advantage you can get, then work for it. Once you build up a routine itâll get much easier. You got made fun of this time because it seemed like your main gripe was about not being able to use your shortcut. At least for me this doesnât seem so different from players who get upset when a bug they were taking advantage of gets patched.
If you played five actual games for the old daily requirement, youâd find that itâs actually quicker to get 30 kills. Thatâs obviously not the case for weaker players, but Iâd really like to hope it is for you. Pvp rewards being harder to get for weaker players shouldnât be a problem since thatâs exactly how it is for pve too.
Also they lowered number of wins for last reward from 100 to 85 which doesnât help pvp activity either. Instead of lowering it they should make higher tiers or make this recurring 10k rp reward into 15k with guaranteed gem.
Nah, I made it crystal clear my main personal gripe was how inconsistent the daily time investment is and sometimes it may go high (potentially even more extremely for some other people). People just made whatever assumption they wanted and took it as moaning when I was trying to contribute to a productive discussion (as well as specifically hear Lemonâs thoughts on it). Seriously though, all good and I expected people would reply the way they did
Yeah theyâve lowered this from 150 all the way down to 85 over time because the vast majority of players find 150 is way out of reach. 85 gets more activity out of them, because itâs an achievable goal.
The daily time investment will feel a lot more inconsistent when youâre going from giving away five free wins to having to kill enemy mons. If you werenât entering a battle with just ziberius or wraithhost, youâd have inconsistent times for how long it takes to complete five games each day. When the time investment goes incredibly high, I think those players should keep going for the daily pvp gems and eventually theyâll get faster at it instead of asking for the devs to go easy on them.
I took the removal of the shortcut as your personal gripe because that was what you were continuously using as the baseline for your posts (five free wins â> 30 kills instead of five actual games â> 30 kills)
Do the devs have data that shows a noticeable increase in pvp activity each time theyâve decreased the last reward requirement? Iâd wonder how this increase in motivation to play for some players balances out with the decrease in motivation that other players definitely have experienced when they donât need to play as many games to get all of the rewards.
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I do both lmao, daily pve is still more annoying to do. To add more context, Its very annoying to go into the daily challenge menu and see you have to do silver mines or youth fruit missions, and also rolling the daily friend chest. This is just a waste of time. In pvp i know i get it once i do 30 kills, plain and simple, and i play pvp for enjoyment. Its among the only things in entire Neo i play manually, not because theres no auto option but because its just pure enjoyment unlike playing pve manually.
And since were listing our bond achievements, let me add, every monster i own is lvl 90 (around 500), about 1/3 of them are lvl 100 now, but not many are 120. That being said, I am getting everyting I can to 120.
yes this is a brag
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Best thing youâve ever said
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And probably that veteran is unownđ
if this happens, i will actually try to play pvp more XD. I get bored
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True as someone who has nt grinded his first 100 ores due to pve I would love if they include it in PvP as well
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Hahaha same brother. Weâll just take the disadvantage together 
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Good oneđ¤Ł
could you show me some screenshots as to how much theyâve increased its damage
