# Whats happen here,hack? cheat? I want a explanation **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [August 10, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585 "2021-08-10T20:24:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/21 "2021-08-10T20:59:51Z")
> [@DMG\_Broly](#): > > All you had to do is say why this happened full stop! They don’t seem to believe what is happening > [@DMG\_Broly](#): > > If you’re gonna be a ■■■■ and not help provide insight keep your ridiculous opinions to your self. > [@DMG\_Broly](#): > > You’re arguments are ridiculous I see no contradiction here > [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](#): > > Sunflower have 51% of speed(Without bonus) > And Pieris 49%(Without bonus) Oh horror of horrors! A monster that is 2% faster doesn’t go first every single time?! How will the world survive such a terrible tragedy? Seriously. How have you never noticed this before? Whether or not you agree with this game mechanic is another debate(which I would be happy to have), but accusing someone of cheating based on this seems a tad bit ridiculous. This mechanic has existed since Dragon Island Blue over a decade ago. It isn’t new. In fact, it is one of the oldest intact game mechanics in the whole series! ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_death_lord/32/71984_2.png) [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Death_Lord)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/22 "2021-08-10T21:01:58Z")
> [@ArcticTheHunter](#): > > ¡Oh horror de los horrores! ¡¿Un monstruo que es 2% más rápido no va primero cada vez ?! ¿Cómo sobrevivirá el mundo a una tragedia tan terrible? You really are stupid or something right You cant see that? I have +9 and 2% more of speed And he attack first Go to the hospital,you are blind or dawn ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/23 "2021-08-10T21:04:43Z")
@DMG_Death_Lord Are you sure your Sunflower is at +9 bonus for entrance speed? Check it in the team building menu. Your other three monsters look positioned exactly where I’d expect them to be but Sunflower is slower. It looks like you have it at +4 on entrance speed. ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_death_lord/32/71984_2.png) [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Death_Lord)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/24 "2021-08-10T21:05:54Z")
Look bro ![Screenshot_2021-08-10-17-05-32](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/a/c/ac8cb71fffac3de10e4ad78be6f3adc65166b4c2.png) ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_death_lord/32/71984_2.png) [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Death_Lord)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/25 "2021-08-10T21:07:48Z")
I know what you mean bro But i have my GF’s +9 speed entrance ---
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/27 "2021-08-10T21:09:53Z")
> [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](#): > > You cant see that? I have +9 and 2% more of speed > And he attack first Once again, 2% is not a lot of speed. It is a negligeable amount. From a lore perspective, as well as a logical one, it seems strange that something 2% faster would always go first. Second, are you sure that Pieris wasn’t also +9? There isn’t any video, so I can’t tell. > [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](#): > > Go to the hospital,you are blind Ah yes. I will compare having an opinion I disagree with to have a life altering disease and/or injury. This is a very logical leap. I am a person on the internet ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_death_lord/32/71984_2.png) [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Death_Lord)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/28 "2021-08-10T21:10:08Z")
Do you really think it would be so stupid to create a thread about something that was my mistake? ---
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/29 "2021-08-10T21:10:49Z")
I’m not asking if it was your mistake. I’m asking whether or not their GFs were potted to +9 ---
**Author:** ![Aeronomatron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/aeronomatron/32/19427_2.png) [@Aeronomatron](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Aeronomatron)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/30 "2021-08-10T21:11:21Z")
It seems to me that when there’s a lot of units in the FL similar in speed there’s more variety due to insignificant amounts of speed that push one unit higher than other. Maybe I’m wrong ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_death_lord/32/71984_2.png) [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Death_Lord)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/31 "2021-08-10T21:11:33Z")
> [@ArcticTheHunter](#): > > No hay ningún video, así que no puedo decirlo. If you knew as much as you say you would know that a monster at +9 gets a change to gold in its name ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/32 "2021-08-10T21:12:42Z")
@DMG_Death_Lord Sorry I made an error in that last message so deleted it. I’ve looked again at the screenshot and figured it out. Basically, the opponent’s Sunflower is probably +5 or more. At +5 it has almost all the entrance speed boost so it’s all down to RNG. If you look at the seconds you can see Sunflower and Gentleowl are just 1s apart. Also, your Sunflower and Spectrefox are just 1s apart. This is from rounding so it looks like the two Sunflowers are further apart than they actually are. It’s likely the Sunflowers are just 2 seconds apart, which is perfectly normal RNG. ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_death_lord/32/71984_2.png) [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Death_Lord)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/33 "2021-08-10T21:12:50Z")
Obviously,i play all my FL +9 because give me chances to fight agains anothers GF’s FL Thats why i got surprised when him both GF attack first ---
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/34 "2021-08-10T21:13:39Z")
> [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](#): > > If you knew as much as you say I have made no claims as to my knowledge of the game. I have only made claims about a very publicly known fact. > [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](#): > > you would know that a monster at +9 gets a change to gold in its name That is a good point. Thank you for telling me. I did not know ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_death_lord/32/71984_2.png) [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Death_Lord)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:14pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/35 "2021-08-10T21:14:04Z")
Ok I dont wanna discuss for Sunflower Iam talking about my Sunflower and him Pieris Its not RNG Something is wrong ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_death_lord/32/71984_2.png) [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Death_Lord)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:14pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/36 "2021-08-10T21:14:21Z")
Now you know ---
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/37 "2021-08-10T21:15:07Z")
> [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](#): > > Its not RNG > Something is wrong What do you mean? This is KillerDog we’re talking about. I think he would know if something was going wrong ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/38 "2021-08-10T21:15:20Z")
> [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](#): > > Iam talking about my Sunflower and him Pieris > Its not RNG You’re right, it isn’t for this bit. G.F. Pieris = 52% speed G.F. Sunflower = 49% speed ---
**Author:** ![Aeronomatron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/aeronomatron/32/19427_2.png) [@Aeronomatron](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Aeronomatron)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/39 "2021-08-10T21:15:31Z")
It happens unfortunately, it’s been around for ages where a slower monster will once in a blue moon outspeed the faster counterpart ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_death_lord/32/71984_2.png) [@DMG\_Death\_Lord](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Death_Lord)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/40 "2021-08-10T21:16:48Z")
Well If you say so You know more then i ---
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585/41 "2021-08-10T21:17:05Z")
> [@Aeronomatron](#): > > It happens unfortunately, it’s been around for ages where a slower monster will once in a blue moon outspeed the faster counterpart It has been around for exactly 9 years and 13 days. Noteably longer than Neo itself [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/whats-happen-here-hack-cheat-i-want-a-explanation/34585.md?page=3)