# Valzareign - Stun Converter Bug **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [February 14, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546 "2018-02-14T17:43:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TNB\_SKLunaTiC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tnb_sklunatic/32/6227_2.png) [@TNB\_SKLunaTiC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNB_SKLunaTiC)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/1 "2018-02-14T17:43:45Z")
Before update:- If In field there is stun absorber nd valzareign at same time then getting stunned results in stun absorber absorbing stun nd valza getting turn as per his passive. After update: Stun absorber absorbing stun but valzreign not getting it’s turn. I guess it is a bug if not valza passive is useless to me it was better before. ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/2 "2018-02-14T17:51:59Z")
Yup I saw this too. Worked in my favour though so I was happy to see it 😉 It would be great to have some confirmation on whether this is how the Devs want it to work. ---
**Author:** ![alisnowpy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/alisnowpy/32/6217_2.png) [@alisnowpy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/alisnowpy)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/3 "2018-02-14T19:03:12Z")
Looking at how the game works from the description I think the after update mechanics is the correct one Because valza only takes turn if stun hits it but cuz absorber makes it immune to stun that means it won’t be stunned and passive won’t work ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Vasquez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/jonathan_vasquez/32/5691_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Vasquez](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Jonathan_Vasquez)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/4 "2018-02-14T20:43:08Z")
i saw this bug too. Valzareign should get the turn no matter what so this is a bug the way it worked before was better ---
**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/5 "2018-02-14T21:28:25Z")
Not a bug, makes sense this way. Stun converter happens when a monster is stunned. stun absorb redirects stun so no one gets hit, stun converter doesn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Vasquez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/jonathan_vasquez/32/5691_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Vasquez](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Jonathan_Vasquez)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/6 "2018-02-14T22:49:42Z")
hmmm this is interesting ok then ---
**Author:** ![GMagic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/gmagic/32/51920_2.png) [@GMagic](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/GMagic)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/7 "2018-02-14T23:30:41Z")
So basically valz got a nerf. Was he OP before?.. lol not that I ever ran him but I feel bad for the people who used him a good bit! ---
**Author:** ![Moking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/moking/32/7553_2.png) [@Moking](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Moking)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/8 "2018-02-15T01:02:59Z")
He quite useable at this stun meta ---
**Author:** ![Boiler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/boiler/32/19099_2.png) [@Boiler](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Boiler)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/9 "2018-02-15T01:38:08Z")
I use Valza. While this change was negative for me, I always found it stupid and cheap that I could protect 2 of my team from stun and still get the instant turn with Valza. This makes way more sense and is better. Coming from someone who loves Valza. ---
**Author:** ![Z19\_Bagorah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/z19_bagorah/32/6221_2.png) [@Z19\_Bagorah](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Z19_Bagorah)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 10:36am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/10 "2018-02-15T10:36:26Z")
I used valza a lot at the end, now he is just plain garbage when an absorber is on the field, pls revert valza back to the way he was ---
**Author:** ![TNB\_SKLunaTiC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tnb_sklunatic/32/6227_2.png) [@TNB\_SKLunaTiC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNB_SKLunaTiC)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/11 "2018-02-15T14:49:16Z")
> [@SWINGg](#): > > I used valza a lot at the end, now he is just plain garbage when an absorber is on the field, pls revert valza back to the way he was Totally agreed plz change it back to it was. ---
**Author:** ![Dev\_BRD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dev_brd/32/17493_2.png) [@Dev\_BRD](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Dev_BRD)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/12 "2018-02-15T23:56:30Z")
I can confirm that this is in-fact a bug, and will be reverted back as soon as possible. Sorry for the issue. ---
**Author:** ![alisnowpy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/alisnowpy/32/6217_2.png) [@alisnowpy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/alisnowpy)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 6:13am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/13 "2018-02-16T06:13:21Z")
Whaaaaaat,but that makes no sense How it is now is normal ---
**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 6:35am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/14 "2018-02-16T06:35:13Z")
How it is now makes sense, why not leave it? ---
**Author:** ![Saul1417](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saul1417/32/1090_2.png) [@Saul1417](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saul1417)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 7:45am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/15 "2018-02-16T07:45:36Z")
Confirmed as a bug so that means it will stay like this forever like every other confirmed bug ---
**Author:** ![Heros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/heros/32/5651_2.png) [@Heros](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Heros)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:07am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/16 "2018-02-16T09:07:49Z")
> [@Saul1417](#): > > Confirmed as a bug so that means it will stay like this forever like every other confirmed bug How dare you!? We’ve got Dev BRD who fixed the poison tick. Poison now makes always damage, but it is still not removing sleep and shield with first tick sooooo at least game is back where it was in 2016 ---
**Author:** ![Scottyftwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scottyftwk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Scottyftwk)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 10:57am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/17 "2018-02-17T10:57:33Z")
Only just evolved him, it’s annoying changed a few games not getting the turn ---
**Author:** ![Ninjagrandpa30102](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ninjagrandpa30102](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Ninjagrandpa30102)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 12:27pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/18 "2018-02-17T12:27:32Z")
Just got him.Guess gonna wait till the bug is fixed, whenever that is ---
**Author:** ![ILAGaLOT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ilagalot/32/19929_2.png) [@ILAGaLOT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ILAGaLOT)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 3:46am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/19 "2018-02-18T03:46:51Z")
Wow never knew valza had so many fans that’s awesome ---
**Author:** ![Scottyftwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scottyftwk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Scottyftwk)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 4:02am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546/20 "2018-02-18T04:02:05Z")
> [@Loughlin\\\_Mcallister](#): > > Wow never knew valza had so many fans that’s awesome I’m no fan, he’s a poor mans Leo. Just don’t have Leo 😥 [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/valzareign-stun-converter-bug/7546.md?page=2)