# Updates

**URL:** <https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099>\
**Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\
**Created:** [February 2, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099 "2017-02-02T03:57:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Supah\_vegetto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@Supah\_vegetto](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Supah_vegetto)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/81 "2017-02-03T02:58:13Z")

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> [@kocowind](#):
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> Who is Garcia?

well the important thing is that he is in trouble

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**Author:** ![kocowind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kocowind/32/5640_2.png) [@kocowind](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kocowind)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/82 "2017-02-03T03:28:41Z")

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> [@Supah\\\_vegetto](#):
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> well the important thing is that he is in trouble

Aha.

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**Author:** ![Neo\_Psychos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba9def/32.png) [@Neo\_Psychos](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Neo_Psychos)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/83 "2017-02-03T03:34:55Z")

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I hate the new update. Sure new features but tell me this. I use twin killer and I hit critically, all I get in damage now is 1600 when I use my Kamiwyrm or Shadowyrm each 5700 atk, and whenever I use bloodcrave with 2 kills it only deals 2300 while others deal much more than they should to me can anyone explain why this Dev update was leeched of happiness by update bye.

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**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/84 "2017-02-03T04:25:08Z")

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First time playing in the ultimate challenge it looks like.

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**Author:** ![Skadi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/skadi/32/25716_2.png) [@Skadi](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Skadi)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/85 "2017-02-03T04:38:57Z")

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The AI monsters in Ultimate Challenge have much much much higher defence than the other battles.

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**Author:** ![Ruziko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@Ruziko](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Ruziko)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 8:12am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/86 "2017-02-03T08:12:02Z")

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The update doesn’t effect me much as I have hardly got any of the monsters mentioned. However the speed up is much appreciated. It makes battles go so much quicker and makes monster ingredient farming less of a chore.

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**Author:** ![Saul1417](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saul1417/32/1090_2.png) [@Saul1417](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saul1417)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 8:24am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/87 "2017-02-03T08:24:22Z")

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@mike. Why didn’t you fix stuff like poison instantly waking Sleep and problems with roaring entrance?

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**Author:** ![Buckingham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/buckingham/32/5780_2.png) [@Buckingham](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Buckingham)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 10:16am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/88 "2017-02-03T10:16:31Z")

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Fun fact, since drako doesn’t get put to hg by Robin but does go to red, it’s the game’s very first counter to a counter.

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**Author:** ![sherz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@sherz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/sherz)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/89 "2017-02-03T13:00:56Z")

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Who has fast forward entrance? That looks incredible.

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**Author:** ![Knight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/knight/32/9791_2.png) [@Knight](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Knight)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 1:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/90 "2017-02-03T13:13:36Z")

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I really like the update vut theres still some issues in the game itself, though, lets wait what happens in the future. Be patient guys!!!

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**Author:** ![Xyzencross](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/xyzencross/32/6251_2.png) [@Xyzencross](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Xyzencross)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 1:20pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/91 "2017-02-03T13:20:54Z")

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> [@sherz](#):
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> Who has fast forward entrance? That looks incredible.

I think its the poison eye legendary since I got to battle it in scb. 🙂

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**Author:** ![lipnoddle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@lipnoddle](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/lipnoddle)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/92 "2017-02-03T16:26:55Z")

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> [@Supah\\\_vegetto](#):
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> wont spot robin, if you shield a protector and robin uses assessinate the protector wont take damage but the other monster will.  
> I do agree his buff is really good and all but in my opinion he needs stun inmune

Actually, because the protector doesn’t take damage, the second monster doesn’t take critical damage. It’s the same as stealth, bc if the protector is stealthed, then the second monster isn’t damaged critically in my experience.

Also, I’m not really satisfied with Cryo. the secret skill takes 30 TU, can do damage quickly, but it’s already slow, needs to set up the clone - which is weak to auto poison unlike wraithmate for example. And stun revenge isn’t much nowadays. It doesn’t seem like it’s worth the extra cost on the team lineup. Idk, I really wanted warca to get something.

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**Author:** ![Supah\_vegetto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@Supah\_vegetto](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Supah_vegetto)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/93 "2017-02-03T16:33:54Z")

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> [@lipnoddle](#):
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> Actually, because the protector doesn’t take damage, the second monster doesn’t take critical damage. It’s the same as stealth, bc if the protector is stealthed, then the second monster isn’t damaged critically in my experience.
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> Also, I’m not really satisfied with Cryo. the secret skill takes 30 TU, can do damage quickly, but it’s already slow, needs to set up the clone - which is weak to auto poison unlike wraithmate for example. And stun revenge isn’t much nowadays. It doesn’t seem like it’s worth the extra cost on the team lineup. Idk, I really wanted warca to get something.

actually no, not sure if its a bug or something but it has happened to me twice already, i soul shield and the protector wont take damage but the other monster will, probably garcia’s fault or something.

I agree completely with the second thing you said

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**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/94 "2017-02-03T20:20:02Z")

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The devs have a bunch of assisted legends coming up so they might get even better with those.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/2X/c/cf370d0fb15ed4fcad9b29425e58ab6e5b0eb3f8.png) [@system](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/95 "2017-02-03T20:39:24Z")

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> [@Zard](#):
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> The devs have a bunch of assisted legends coming up so they might get even better with those.

Hey now, nobody ever said “a bunch” 😛 In theory, even one alone could change everything for a particular strategy. We’ll just have to wait and see 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/96 "2017-02-03T21:09:46Z")

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I am pretty sure you actually did in chat 😛 but what do I know?

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**Author:** ![lipnoddle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@lipnoddle](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/lipnoddle)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/97 "2017-02-03T21:10:10Z")

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> [@Supah\\\_vegetto](#):
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> actually no, not sure if its a bug or something but it has happened to me twice already, i soul shield and the protector wont take damage but the other monster will, probably garcia’s fault or something.
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> I agree completely with the second thing you said

Oh I see, okay well then :o

> [@Zard](#):
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> The devs have a bunch of assisted legends coming up so they might get even better with those.

Haha, that’s nice and all, but I can’t seem to pull legends, so new monsters really doesn’t seem like the solution from my point of view 😛 I think I’m going to go for one more 10 in 1, and if I can’t get any game changers, I’ll call it quits

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**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/98 "2017-02-03T21:15:21Z")

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I know that feeling, I had a 3-month legend drought between warca and tiamazus.

Requires patience.

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**Author:** ![Mayushii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mayushii/32/6236_2.png) [@Mayushii](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mayushii)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/99 "2017-02-04T02:09:24Z")

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> [@Saul1417](#):
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> @mike. Why didn’t you fix stuff like poison instantly waking Sleep and problems with roaring entrance?

Some tweaks to the code in this update might help alleviate some timing issues, but I’ll be taking another look at Roaring Entrance.

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**Author:** ![Saul1417](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saul1417/32/1090_2.png) [@Saul1417](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saul1417)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 8:33am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/100 "2017-02-04T08:33:13Z")

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Poison still doesn’t wake sleep properly. In UC when bane comes in I can usually still get dreamhunt off once or twice

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