# Updates **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [February 2, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099 "2017-02-02T03:57:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/61 "2017-02-02T18:28:48Z")
Just rhynobrawl and puffoxin got a DR nerf. Not taloknight. ---
**Author:** ![Supah\_vegetto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@Supah\_vegetto](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Supah_vegetto)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/62 "2017-02-02T18:30:01Z")
> [@Zard](#): > > 6 crecendo strikes is not enough to make crecendo strike one-shot things. > > 300 seconds = 1 one on one, or 1 soulstealer DSA. Not hard to charge. leo can take advantage of stun and accelerated/+9 is around 34 TU, i can agree talo is way more lethal after 300secs pass but setting him is hard, 1 on 1 doesnt always work and frostrider is easy to deal with. I still think they need stun inmune but atm they are relatively good monsters ---
**Author:** ![MidshipRunabout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/midshiprunabout/32/6250_2.png) [@MidshipRunabout](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MidshipRunabout)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/63 "2017-02-02T18:34:33Z")
Valzareign isn’t very strong in my opinion. Mostly he died after 2-3 attacks 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Jackscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Jackscale](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Jackscale)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/64 "2017-02-02T18:41:19Z")
Lets be honest for a moment. You know who got the best buff of all?? The speed of pve games…the best buff by far ---
**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/65 "2017-02-02T18:43:33Z")
100% agree. Neo monsters is convenient now. ---
**Author:** ![0rganic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/0rganic/32/6204_2.png) [@0rganic](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/0rganic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/66 "2017-02-02T18:49:11Z")
The buff on assisted doesn’t really change things much. Drako, id admit that it’s pretty okay. Just went from terrible to bad. Ideally it would have been good if drako got. This would’ve been so much better of a buff but nope just added some purify and not even a secret skill LOL: Active: Purify mist Desperate double AOE \*double knockback\* Passive: Autoprotect plus like aegis Hold ground ---
**Author:** ![Supah\_vegetto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@Supah\_vegetto](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Supah_vegetto)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/67 "2017-02-02T19:00:44Z")
> [@Jackscale](#): > > Lets be honest for a moment. You know who got the best buff of all?? The speed of pve games…the best buff by far yup 👌🏻 ---
**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/68 "2017-02-02T19:10:28Z")
> [@0rganic](#): > > The buff on assisted doesn’t really change things much. Drako, id admit that it’s pretty okay. Just went from terrible to bad. > > Ideally it would have been good if drako got. This would’ve been so much better of a buff but nope just added some purify and not even a secret skill LOL: > > Active: > Purify mist > Desperate double > AOE > \*double knockback\* > > Passive: > Autoprotect plus like aegis > Hold ground I don’t think you have tried him. He now has a ton of utility and shuts down 3 different strategies. Assisted, poison, and sleep. He is perfect to swap into for a soulstealer line too. He does need to lose fury mode though. Replace with something else.either that or it should reverse if he goes above 20% hp. ---
**Author:** ![KingBen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kingben/32/6174_2.png) [@KingBen](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/KingBen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/69 "2017-02-02T19:19:02Z")
I really like the gameplay speed add on. A lot of good stuff with this one. Been out for a month so this is nice to see upon my return. ---
**Author:** ![0rganic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/0rganic/32/6204_2.png) [@0rganic](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/0rganic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/70 "2017-02-02T19:20:31Z")
> [@Zard](#): > > I don’t think you have tried him. He now has a ton of utility and shuts down 3 different strategies. Assisted, poison, and sleep. He is perfect to swap into for a soulstealer line too. > He does need to lose fury mode though. Replace with something else.either that or it should reverse if he goes above 20% hp. Hmmm I think you may be right. It does seem to shut down multiple strats. My concern is also that fury mode. It doesn’t need it. I think the whole idea of it was to be a support tank… I would honestly have preferred auto accelerate (can be used 50 seconds after it first turn) or you’re suggestion of higher than 20% it’s attack is added to its defense. Additionally I much rather prefer desperate bite over desperate double. ---
**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/71 "2017-02-02T19:29:15Z")
You also have to take into account the fact that he completely shuts down banedragon. He comes in with drakozord around and the bane is going to have a bad day. He can hit only drakozord by himself with faststrike and it takes him 140 seconds to double poison eater anything(2x dual poison touch). By that point he has repurified his team and it starts over. So no double poison eater. ---
**Author:** ![Jackscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Jackscale](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Jackscale)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/72 "2017-02-02T19:52:41Z")
He doesnt shut down bane:) along with tt bane will still do his thing except that he’ll lose one give turn Btw wolfrozor still needs more. Its really frustrating to see that itll be months before they give him an ample buff. Firstly, energy charge needs slight healing properties. Second, he needs either bloodcrave or attack boost all instead of lifeflip His only claim to game right now is that he kills lava(probably) Thats not enough though because then he becomes a waste of space ---
**Author:** ![kocowind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kocowind/32/5640_2.png) [@kocowind](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kocowind)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/73 "2017-02-02T20:31:00Z")
Hate drakozord now. ---
**Author:** ![TheGreatest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/thegreatest/32/10747_2.png) [@TheGreatest](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TheGreatest)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/74 "2017-02-02T20:51:57Z")
This puts talo/apollo in a similiar position to midas. It’s either you take the DR early or wait for it come back to bite you later on… Looks like fl knockback is going to be more of a thing now…remus returns… ---
**Author:** ![TheGodfeather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9a28c/32.png) [@TheGodfeather](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TheGodfeather)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/75 "2017-02-02T21:56:56Z")
Didn’t read anything on assisted buffs what happened? ---
**Author:** ![syll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@syll](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/syll)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/76 "2017-02-03T01:14:03Z")
> [@TheGodfeather](#): > > Didn’t read anything on assisted buffs what happened? They get clone next and a secret skill attack buff. ---
**Author:** ![Supah\_vegetto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@Supah\_vegetto](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Supah_vegetto)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/77 "2017-02-03T01:29:59Z")
So mike, what happend to good old garcia? Is he in trouble? ---
**Author:** ![Mayushii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mayushii/32/6236_2.png) [@Mayushii](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mayushii)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/78 "2017-02-03T02:28:38Z")
> [@Supah\\\_vegetto](#): > > So mike, what happend to good old garcia? Is he on trouble? Well, due to Survival of the Fittest’s “popularity”, we’re either going to be revamping it from the ground up or finding another place for good ol’ Garcia.  😃 ---
**Author:** ![Supah\_vegetto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@Supah\_vegetto](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Supah_vegetto)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/79 "2017-02-03T02:33:07Z")
> [@Mayushii](#): > > Well, due to Survival of the Fittest’s “popularity”, we’re either going to be revamping it from the ground up or finding another place for good ol’ Garcia. 😃 i will miss him :'v ---
**Author:** ![kocowind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kocowind/32/5640_2.png) [@kocowind](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kocowind)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/updates/6099/80 "2017-02-03T02:55:10Z")
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