# Update Progress: They are not useless anymore! **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [August 25, 2017, 10:11am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023 "2017-08-25T10:11:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RAF\_Raven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/raf_raven/32/8286_2.png) [@RAF\_Raven](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/RAF_Raven)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 6:04am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/21 "2017-08-28T06:04:36Z")
Sorry brother. it is not gonna happen. Even we are thinking Death Revenge counter :ph34r:[/quote] Nice! Finally a DR counter 😏 ---
**Author:** ![NMEGaryOak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmegaryoak/32/20469_2.png) [@NMEGaryOak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEGaryOak)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 6:37am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/22 "2017-08-28T06:37:52Z")
> [@Dev\\\_VKC](#): > > Sorry brother. it is not gonna happen. > Even we are thinking Death Revenge counter :ph34r: @vkc do you really think death revenge needs a counter? It’s really not that common as it is. People who try to make death revenge into an actual strategy are crazy. Z19 GarciaOak ---
**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 1:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/23 "2017-08-28T13:36:47Z")
Noooo. . . Don’t nerf nebel back to being useless. He just got buffed. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Death\_Legion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Death\_Legion](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/The_Death_Legion)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/24 "2017-08-28T16:10:48Z")
Taloknight ??? Talo or similar would be pretty useless if there’s that counter ---
**Author:** ![Lucrayzor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lucrayzor/32/31298_2.png) [@Lucrayzor](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Lucrayzor)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/25 "2017-08-28T16:40:12Z")
> [@Zard](#): > > Kamishogun can’t kill anything. He does too little damage. It would be as simple as changing a number like for instant protector killer right? > Also, why do we have death wish in the game, but the legendaries that could use it have sudden death? > I mean, you gave death wish to a superepic. Why not the legendaries? > Rexo can’t 1-shot TT. > Assisted needs a pretty huge revisit in general. Well because death wish always needs to have a condition so that it’s not OP. If you replace SD with death wish, then assuming it’s a one kill condition, you’re just making it harder for them to get their kill. Though I do agree on the damage issue. Cyclo’s SS does a stupid amount of damage, so why not rexo/Kami? ---
**Author:** ![Rctuga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/rctuga/32/56460_2.png) [@Rctuga](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Rctuga)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/26 "2017-08-28T17:48:18Z")
> [@Zard](#): > > Kamishogun can’t kill anything. He does too little damage. It would be as simple as changing a number like for instant protector killer right? > Also, why do we have death wish in the game, but the legendaries that could use it have sudden death? > I mean, you gave death wish to a superepic. Why not the legendaries? > Rexo can’t 1-shot TT. > Assisted needs a pretty huge revisit in general. I disagree kamishogun can kill themselve allways 😃 its a ritual ---
**Author:** ![MidshipRunabout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/midshiprunabout/32/6250_2.png) [@MidshipRunabout](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MidshipRunabout)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/27 "2017-08-28T19:17:12Z")
I’m very happy to read this. I can’t wait to see my Prismaryx in PVP. Hopefully he got so strong like he looks 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dev\_VKC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dev_vkc/32/55057_2.png) [@Dev\_VKC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Dev_VKC)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/28 "2017-08-29T01:04:05Z")
> [@GaryOak](#): > > @vkc do you really think death revenge needs a counter? It’s really not that common as it is. People who try to make death revenge into an actual strategy are crazy. > > Z19 GarciaOak A little bird told me you are the crazy one. > [@Zard](#): > > Noooo. . . > > Don’t nerf nebel back to being useless. He just got buffed. It is just an idea. Nothing solid so far as Death Revenge doesn’t cause any serious balance issue in PvP.  ---
**Author:** ![NiteKrawler0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nitekrawler0/32/6207_2.png) [@NiteKrawler0](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NiteKrawler0)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 2:00am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/29 "2017-08-29T02:00:53Z")
> [@Dev\\\_VKC](#): > > It is just an idea. Nothing solid so far as Death Revenge doesn’t cause any serious balance issue in PvP.  It actually does cause serious issues … DEATH is a VERY SERIOUS ISSUE. Especially when it’s my monsters that die, then the balance is completely screwed 😛 ---
**Author:** ![blackdroid52](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/blackdroid52/32/19903_2.png) [@blackdroid52](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/blackdroid52)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 7:57am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/30 "2017-08-31T07:57:51Z")
Dev VKC, what About stealthbane attack damage buff?? ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/31 "2017-08-31T22:04:57Z")
Looking forward to the update! I’m a little fearful of what might happen to Bunkerbeast. I agree with Zardecil that Kamishogun and Rexo would really benefit from their SS to be made stronger. 50TU is perfect but there are way too many monsters which they can’t one-shot, especially when the enemies are buffed a bit (which they are in most of PvE). It might not be a necessary buff, but I think it would be very much liked and not cause imbalances. I was a little disappointed when my Rexo became 16 cost and the SS rarely does him any good. ---
**Author:** ![blackdroid52](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/blackdroid52/32/19903_2.png) [@blackdroid52](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/blackdroid52)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/32 "2017-09-01T03:57:09Z")
> Hello everyone! > > We have made some update progress regarding monster buff. We are pretty happy with it so far. Here are some teasers! > > - Slayerbane will be doing its job now. > - Fire First One will be real First One (hopefully). > - No one can laugh at Bunkerbeast anymore! > - You don’t want to meet Prismaryx in the battle after the next update. > - and more and more! > > Have a good weekend! What about albakhan buff?? ---
**Author:** ![Dev\_VKC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dev_vkc/32/55057_2.png) [@Dev\_VKC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Dev_VKC)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/33 "2017-09-01T04:10:15Z")
> [@blackdroid52](#): > > What about albakhan buff?? Don’t worry B) His buff is already promised and done, no need to mention here. ---
**Author:** ![LuisEspinosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/luisespinosa/32/6246_2.png) [@LuisEspinosa](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LuisEspinosa)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/34 "2017-09-01T04:11:24Z")
> [@Dev\\\_VKC](#): > > Don’t worry B) > His buff is already promised and done, no need to mention here. And the turtle 🐢? ---
**Author:** ![Laxtankk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/laxtankk/32/12497_2.png) [@Laxtankk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Laxtankk)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 8:47am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/35 "2017-09-02T08:47:50Z")
> [@LuisEspinosa](#): > > And the turtle 🐢? turt needs no buff he’s a very solid mon ---
**Author:** ![HellionLucifer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/hellionlucifer/32/6226_2.png) [@HellionLucifer](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/HellionLucifer)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/36 "2017-09-02T14:50:53Z")
> [@Laxtankk](#): > > turt needs no buff he’s a very solid mon Really…? ---
**Author:** ![Z19\_Bagorah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/z19_bagorah/32/6221_2.png) [@Z19\_Bagorah](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Z19_Bagorah)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/37 "2017-09-02T14:59:27Z")
> [@HellionLucifer](#): > > Really…? yup, he definitely doesn’t need any buff ---
**Author:** ![HellionLucifer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/hellionlucifer/32/6226_2.png) [@HellionLucifer](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/HellionLucifer)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/38 "2017-09-02T16:37:11Z")
Well… I want to know how i can use it ): ---
**Author:** ![Guwop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/guwop/32/12115_2.png) [@Guwop](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Guwop)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/39 "2017-09-02T16:50:35Z")
> [@HellionLucifer](#): > > Well… I want to know how i can use it ): as a stun absorb or a support in throw based team  ---
**Author:** ![MyManJones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dec6dc/32.png) [@MyManJones](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MyManJones)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023/40 "2017-09-02T17:04:54Z")
> [@booth](#): > > as a stun absorb or a support in throw based team Stun absorb without weakness to anything. If you have a stag or Aegis, he just absorbs, while they protect him from timestrike. [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/update-progress-they-are-not-useless-anymore/7023.md?page=3)