# Ultimadragon **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [December 23, 2015, 9:00am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ultimadragon/3637 "2015-12-23T09:00:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![aznvasions](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/aznvasions/32/5704_2.png) [@aznvasions](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/aznvasions)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ultimadragon/3637/21 "2015-12-23T23:13:20Z")
Idk Id rather take an extra hit so I can set up bloodthirst than risk him dying. If he’s gonna die if I don’t kill both of the mons before his turn ends, well it wouldn’t have made a difference then lol. At the very least though, he’ll still take another down with his Death Revenge 😛 I’m of the opinion legends should have weaknesses anyways, so that they aren’t completely OP. I find Ultimadragon still falls within this category, although probably falls in higher tier. Definitely still outclassed by ones with Last Bite still though, and Nightrider is a definite contender due to the abuse you can do with desperate all. ---
**Author:** ![Cullen\_Murphy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cullen_murphy/32/3328_2.png) [@Cullen\_Murphy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cullen_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ultimadragon/3637/22 "2015-12-23T23:13:27Z")
That’s my point. If he had a lower TU move (I like assisted single target attacks for situations like that) he could survive Again, I’m not saying he’s bad, he looks very good ---
**Author:** ![aznvasions](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/aznvasions/32/5704_2.png) [@aznvasions](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/aznvasions)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ultimadragon/3637/23 "2015-12-23T23:15:31Z")
He has Double Survivor, it can still guarantee a KO on low health mons for only 160 TU. Nothing has enough speed to KO him off after spawn in with Time Strike if you KO using that. But well, we’ll see how he fairs once the PvP really gets going. ---
**Author:** ![Cullen\_Murphy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cullen_murphy/32/3328_2.png) [@Cullen\_Murphy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cullen_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ultimadragon/3637/24 "2015-12-23T23:15:44Z")
i find last bite is really not so horrible tbh. Easy to see coming usually. Agreed that nightrider is great though ---
**Author:** ![Tarzan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Tarzan](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tarzan)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ultimadragon/3637/25 "2015-12-23T23:28:29Z")
Killing two monsters can be generally a good thing if you pair it with something with Give Turn, and manage the clock well. When I first got Seahowl I thought it looked pretty useless but has become invaluable as his combination of Give Turn and Stun Immunity allows you to laugh off Stun Bombs and Revenges. ---
**Author:** ![Paly\_Siew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/977dab/32.png) [@Paly\_Siew](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Paly_Siew)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 12:55am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ultimadragon/3637/26 "2015-12-24T00:55:35Z")
Ultimadragon double survivor second is 130. There is no worry of timestrike attack > [@Cullen\\\_Murphy](#): > > Sometimes you accidentally kill 2 monsters, and sometimes you’re practically forced to. What if both of those monsters are low health and dangerous and you have to kill them before they get a turn? > > I’m not saying he’s bad, I’m just saying he’s susceptible to timestrike in certain cases. I use his double survivor (130s) rather than AOE. Quite good, can clear monster below 4 stars at once. Those 4 stars above who are already hurt can usually be cleared at once ---
**Author:** ![aznvasions](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/aznvasions/32/5704_2.png) [@aznvasions](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/aznvasions)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ultimadragon/3637/27 "2015-12-24T01:05:33Z")
Mb again I’m seriously slow today. I must’ve been thinking of desperate double ---
**Author:** ![Paly\_Siew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/977dab/32.png) [@Paly\_Siew](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Paly_Siew)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ultimadragon/3637/28 "2015-12-24T01:12:22Z")
> [@aznvasions](#): > > Mb again I’m seriously slow today. I must’ve been thinking of desperate double Its survivor double. I have a warca. Just put a sleep bomb to activate warca and ultimadragon skill at the beginning, and a protector to protect them. Quite good [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ultimadragon/3637.md?page=1)