# "Ugly 1200-pull guarantee"

**URL:** <https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969>\
**Category:** Neo Monsters\
**Created:** [April 11, 2025, 3:16am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969 "2025-04-11T03:16:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wendigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/wendigo/32/68123_2.png) [@Wendigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Wendigo)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 9:07am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/62 "2025-09-06T09:07:51Z")

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No standard pool either

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**Author:** ![Herr\_Loki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/herr_loki/32/72673_2.png) [@Herr\_Loki](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Herr_Loki)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 10:56am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/63 "2025-09-06T10:56:13Z")

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No words left to describe what they are doing to u

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**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/64 "2025-09-06T14:55:51Z")

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> [@Wendigo](#):
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> what are the odds for 4 in a row?

I realised after you said “3 in a row” that what you’re talking about is not actually consecutive pity being hit. I can only assume what you’re saying is when hatching for 4 shards of a mythic you are hitting pity on one of those 4.

The chance of hitting pity once when awakening a mythic is roughly 38%, so seeing it happen for multiple mythics in a row is not outrageously unlikely. As Purpleheart has said in the past… she expects to hit pity once on each awakening.

@Wendigo I do sympathise with your bad luck, but at this point I can’t be sure of what exactly you’re reporting. Hitting pity also doesn’t give the full story, because you could be getting the other shards without many gems. I’m not going to give you any more sympathy or replies unless you share how many gems it took you to awaken these mythics, because ultimately that’s the number that matters.

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**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/65 "2025-09-06T15:20:33Z")

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As someone who awakened about 55 myths last year and around 40 this year, hitting pity is completely normal when you pull on almost every banner, especially if you need all 4 shards. What he should really be asking himself is whether he would prefer having no pity at all and risking 50 packs with zero featured myth copies. Pity counters are a good thing and already proven to help. What he is implying is that his rates are wrong, when in reality his experience is nothing unusual for big whales pushing toward a maxed account.

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**Author:** ![Wendigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/wendigo/32/68123_2.png) [@Wendigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Wendigo)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/66 "2025-09-06T19:29:09Z")

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I’m just posting this unusual pity one banner after the next. Even if it’s a different banner a back to back pity from banner to banner is unusual. I didn’t roll for some because I have 20 or so mythic ticket la that were used to get the other shards. So, although not in the same banner, it is unusually rare to hit pity on four different banners

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**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/67 "2025-09-06T19:31:31Z")

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> [@Wendigo](#):
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> is unusually rare to hit pity on four different banners

But it’s actually not 🙃

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**Author:** ![PurpleHeart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/purpleheart/32/68705_2.png) [@PurpleHeart](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/PurpleHeart)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/68 "2025-09-06T19:33:18Z")

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A 34% chance is not uncommon, you should always hatch with pity in mind

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**Author:** ![Wendigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/wendigo/32/68123_2.png) [@Wendigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Wendigo)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/69 "2025-09-06T19:52:07Z")

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Well back to back banners that is, four different ones. I used the mythic tickets that should also made it so I didn’t have to roll on the same banner again. Then the following banner hit a pity again no standard pool mythics on two of them.

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**Author:** ![Wendigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/wendigo/32/68123_2.png) [@Wendigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Wendigo)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/70 "2025-09-06T19:54:59Z")

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The average to wake up a mythic in total is about 1600-2000 gems. Even the other shards that could be earned takes roughly 400-880 gems each for the other three it seems. The last few mythic for only three shards was over 2300 gems which is definitely unusual.

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**Author:** ![Wendigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/wendigo/32/68123_2.png) [@Wendigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Wendigo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 6:31am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/71 "2025-09-07T06:31:21Z")

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@PurpleHeart how many gems after your pity does it usually take to get the next shard?

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**Author:** ![PurpleHeart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/purpleheart/32/68705_2.png) [@PurpleHeart](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/PurpleHeart)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 6:35am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/72 "2025-09-07T06:35:37Z")

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That changes everytime sometimes 3 packs sometimes 29 packs

My hatching moto is simple tho 10-15 packs if I get something cool continue if I get nothing I stop hatching

That also applies to a hatch were I get something in 10 packs, pity next shard unless I really want the mythic I’d either stop or drop another 10 packs caus GAMBLIMG

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**Author:** ![101X31](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/101x31/32/51668_2.png) [@101X31](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/101X31)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 7:16am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/73 "2025-09-07T07:16:16Z")

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While we’re at the topic can I ask you what are the odds of hitting pity in anniversary banner

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**Author:** ![Wendigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/wendigo/32/68123_2.png) [@Wendigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Wendigo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 8:03am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/74 "2025-09-07T08:03:49Z")

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Ah so generally 10-15 more packs to get the next shard after a pity resets?

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**Author:** ![PurpleHeart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/purpleheart/32/68705_2.png) [@PurpleHeart](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/PurpleHeart)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 8:10am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/75 "2025-09-07T08:10:24Z")

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No not really that’s just my whales mentality, something I picked up from coltraz acctualy

What I do is that I only do 10-15 packs on a banner I want to hatch on, like carmilliette who I awakend a few days ago

I got 1 shard in pack 3 and then I locked in more and did another 15 packs got a shard within those and then did it again and ended up awakening her

The only time I acctualy go to pity for a mythic is if it’s a spesific mythic I have waited for and want badly,

If it’s somewhat whatever I just do 10-15 packs and if no mythic egg shows up I’ll leave the banner and wait until the next time it shows up

But keep in mind that I buy alot of gems so throwing 400-600 gems willy nilly is alot more whatever for me than it is for the avrage player

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**Author:** ![Wendigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/wendigo/32/68123_2.png) [@Wendigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Wendigo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/76 "2025-09-07T19:50:10Z")

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Ah, got ya. Lately I just been opening a ton of packs to get specific mythics but back to back banners I have received pity which is ridiculous. I understand the percentages of the pity but continuously getting it is a bit concerning. Especially four banners back to back. I didn’t even roll for some because I had several mythic tickets used for remaining shards. So in essence it is back to back pity but from different banners. This has gotta be the odd

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**Author:** ![Wendigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/wendigo/32/68123_2.png) [@Wendigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Wendigo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 4:28am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/77 "2025-09-25T04:28:56Z")

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Can I ask am I really this unlucky?

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**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 6:00am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/78 "2025-09-25T06:00:59Z")

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I told you to skip her though

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**Author:** ![Unholy\_Prem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unholy_prem/32/81598_2.png) [@Unholy\_Prem](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unholy_Prem)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 6:37am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/79 "2025-09-25T06:37:11Z")

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Is it u that is unlucky or is it the accnt or is it both lol …

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**Author:** ![Wendigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/wendigo/32/68123_2.png) [@Wendigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Wendigo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 6:37am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/80 "2025-09-25T06:37:55Z")

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I don’t know but every banner so far I hit the pity and I haven’t rolled that many mythic

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**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 6:42am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/ugly-1200-pull-guarantee/59969/81 "2025-09-25T06:42:46Z")

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Tbf she is the next bridalith in terms of power level. Very impactful and won’t be getting a nerf for the first 2-3 years because she feels both balanced and strong until everyone figures out the most optimal place to run her. She is more worth to pull than something like Vivienne or ALYCE who is for sure gonna get hard counters and/or nerfs.

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