# TomDeCarton Nerf Patch **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [June 1, 2023, 2:31am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035 "2023-06-01T02:31:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 2:31am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/1 "2023-06-01T02:31:55Z")
So it looks like the devs just nerfed all of @ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn’s team lmfao. I’ve never seen an update more focused on just a single player’s actions 😂 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/3/4/343650811c6a3b18c65d5a24fdd116af6623ec4e.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/8/e/8e1d7989f931f7c287eeb8a7d351c09e2c86a22c.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/8/2/82db9a0842e17af3ed2aaf4d6cbfb97975345b58.jpeg) @Dev_VKC umm why does instant sendback have no restriction? nyx is literally 92% speed 💀 ---
**Author:** ![Unholy\_Prem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unholy_prem/32/81598_2.png) [@Unholy\_Prem](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unholy_Prem)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 2:41am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/2 "2023-06-01T02:41:44Z")
Can u also fix lion heart hp boost too or is that a bit different. Also Show them again what u got @ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn ---
**Author:** ![squinty1880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@squinty1880](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/squinty1880)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 2:42am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/3 "2023-06-01T02:42:08Z")
> [@NMEduck](#): > > why does instant sendback have no restriction? nyx is literally 92% speed 💀 If they’re gonna change this might as well add a restriction to the titans while they are at since since retreat functionally does the same thing at 90% speed bringing in the 5th slot mon. ---
**Author:** ![Unholy\_Prem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unholy_prem/32/81598_2.png) [@Unholy\_Prem](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unholy_Prem)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/4 "2023-06-01T02:47:17Z")
sendback, retreat and exit plan are 3 different skills though. Instant sendback deserves a tu restriction just like exit plan (normal sendback doesn’t have any restriction). ---
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 2:50am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/5 "2023-06-01T02:50:42Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/b/2/b2a569461323ff6d0a600553f535db5f7599c164.jpeg) P.S. don’t worry, the white stuff is mayo ---
**Author:** ![Unholy\_Prem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unholy_prem/32/81598_2.png) [@Unholy\_Prem](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unholy_Prem)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 2:58am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/6 "2023-06-01T02:58:56Z")
Nah is fresh water it is written just next to it ---
**Author:** ![101X31](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/101x31/32/51668_2.png) [@101X31](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/101X31)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 4:16am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/7 "2023-06-01T04:16:13Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/e/a/ead428ad64dbe2bbc1671b3125d85ea3abb9549e.jpeg) Some one tell me what is this 😲 ---
**Author:** ![squinty1880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@squinty1880](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/squinty1880)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/8 "2023-06-01T04:32:06Z")
It’ll probably be locked behind an op mythic only a select few (myself included) will have access to. ---
**Author:** ![raWen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/rawen/32/48312_2.png) [@raWen](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/raWen)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 5:42am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/9 "2023-06-01T05:42:45Z")
lol nice work @Coltraz ---
**Author:** ![INA-Archer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ina-archer/32/37741_2.png) [@INA-Archer](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/INA-Archer)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 6:11am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/10 "2023-06-01T06:11:14Z")
They really buff NYX, wish they know Previous Fermata already fatal move and the only who can counter it is accel move or sacrifice. And poor redybug, I really love her skill in general. And today she just joke , sleep(goldoise) and poison revenge(redybug) is bad choice. ---
**Author:** ![Unholy\_Prem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unholy_prem/32/81598_2.png) [@Unholy\_Prem](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unholy_Prem)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 7:20am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/11 "2023-06-01T07:20:34Z")
and they even remove duo attack 🙁 this is so stupid nd they added poison revenge bcz why not goldoise has sleep and shield lol it won’t affect it . ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 10:06am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/12 "2023-06-01T10:06:49Z")
Devs heard he’s turned f2p so they retired him ---
**Author:** ![ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tondeusencarton/32/48281_2.png) [@ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 11:13am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/13 "2023-06-01T11:13:56Z")
Randy said it was a spider tho🧐 ---
**Author:** ![ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tondeusencarton/32/48281_2.png) [@ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 11:14am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/14 "2023-06-01T11:14:48Z")
They probably didnt even think about that and just wanted my tokens to die💀 ---
**Author:** ![kabylian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kabylian/32/49574_2.png) [@kabylian](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kabylian)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 12:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/15 "2023-06-01T12:13:48Z")
tondeuse team being nerfed as usual , sure its a nasty team , (token lock ) giving a small chance of comming back , its an instant gg for him when his steup is done , but …we have 1 tondeusencarton thats why he being nerfed sooo badly while there is a dozen of stun lockers doing literraly the same thing as tondeuse but they arent nerfed at all , stun lock still slapping hard giving small possibility of a ceomeback and its an awefull strategy giving awefull experienece (you literally sit sometimes around 5 min whithout even getting a turn waiting for the opponent to finish you slowly) , @Dev_VKC i hopr you put the same eneegy to shutdown stun lockers as you doing to nerf 1 player because i have ×10 chance meeting stun locker than meeting tondeuse in pvp ---
**Author:** ![Cesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cesar/32/76219_2.png) [@Cesar](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cesar)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/16 "2023-06-01T12:33:14Z")
really, however I find the stun to be balanced and easier to come back after that rather than coming back after tondeus token lock ---
**Author:** ![Herr\_Loki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/herr_loki/32/72673_2.png) [@Herr\_Loki](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Herr_Loki)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/17 "2023-06-01T12:41:14Z")
I actually hate u complaining all the time about the stun just leave it bruh nobody else it’s complaining, however, it’s dumb u limited all stun absorber at the same time @Dev_VKC (Plume,Sturgeon and Dusi) even then i don’t care if I’m gonna get stunned but still dumb ---
**Author:** ![kabylian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kabylian/32/49574_2.png) [@kabylian](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kabylian)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 12:47pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/18 "2023-06-01T12:47:28Z")
Because almost all gto members running stun lock thdy are sooo desperate for a win , stun lock is awefull and not only me who says it should be shutdown ---
**Author:** ![Herr\_Loki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/herr_loki/32/72673_2.png) [@Herr\_Loki](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Herr_Loki)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/19 "2023-06-01T12:48:03Z")
> [@kabylian](#): > > almost all gto Someone kicked ur @ss didn’t he? Lmfao ---
**Author:** ![Cesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cesar/32/76219_2.png) [@Cesar](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cesar)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 1:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035/20 "2023-06-01T13:11:28Z")
you’re wrong I’m the only one who uses it seriously ( in GTO ) and yet it’s not a lock it’s just for my novadrake [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/tomdecarton-nerf-patch/44035.md?page=2)