Thoughts on Risu?

It would be optimal since normal stealth goes away with a simple attack, and his stealth ability costs 85 TU and only gives him 100 seconds of stealth, so he doesn’t have time to make any attack without losing Vanquis stealth. It costs 85 TU, just the Mythical only gives stealth it cannot kill I don’t know if that was thought about, maybe @Dev_VKC can solve our doubt

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…if it was intentional why wasn’t it specified in the passive’s explanation?

Do u want 20000% permanently. Even Carmella wit 1000 boost that also only above 90% hp is broken and u want double defence boost with continuous healing permanently?? She is great in proper setup. Everything will not work like broken things that u placed anywhere and works properly.

Pov: When people threw money in certain myth starts asking for that myth buff. Ig it was u previously arguing with coltraz about his hobby of asking buff for mons that he gets or defend it. That means it’s not his fault either.

You have not read the message, or you have not understood it, read it again, at no time have I asked for any buff, just an explanation about that stealth ability and its TU, I am very happy with risu, those TU are solvable with a acceleration, but without acceleration she is not a killer, but she can be played in another way to counteract that

I repeat, read the messages completely and try to understand them.

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It’s written there in plain text… just a survival mechanism

Here are my thoughts after trying her for 2 days in PvP matches:

Pros:
→ perfect for sleep/heavy control teams
→ very flexible moveset (you can either 68tu detox for stealth or get a guaranteed def boost for 100tu with 85tu camouflage)
→ unlimited sendbacks/summons to counter token teams
→ focus (always a good passive)
→ great passives on the token

Cons:
→ A-Con is rather clunky and has high tu on sweeping moves (maybe it should be spawned with the same + as Risu)
→ A-Con does not die after you use Mangle or Rage

She is pretty slow to get going but has good survival mechanism and with a little bit of teambuilding it can be very dangerous.

I apprieciate it is not another fast speed frontline mythic that can sweep from first turn with no condition.

What would make her more reliable:

  • Vanquish changed to Vanquish+ (200tu version)
  • If Risu dies and A-con is on the field then Rage goes off and A-con dies.
  • Acorn Rage changed to Shield Ally (130tu)
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I agree. And what I’ll add is that once Vanquish is available, you must choose between getting camo or using Vanquish (and hence losing the camo). You can also get knocked back (and can’t use gravity field bc of the acorn substitute).

Also think Duo Mangler needs a lower tu (with maybe a two time use restriction?). Not sure, but with it being +0 it feels like an eternity before it can get a second move, and usually doesn’t. Easy kill for the opponent.

Found her fun but very challenging to pull off efficiently in PvP since without her camo buff she dies very easily.

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Yeah, other monsters get camo for 300 or 500tu while she only has it for 100. I know she gets focus and def boost with it but I think 100 is still a little bit short to make her as reliable as other myths.

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In my opinion the stealth should last at least when it reaches 300 seconds for the vanquish 170, which would be 85x2 at least so that there is time to attack with a vanquish and not lose a century, since she does not kill anything until 300 you, only kill acon, the enemy just has to wait since she is useless during that time, and then he just has to wait for her to launch a vanquish to kill her, it’s like chary, you have to wait until the blind runs out and then kill in 59 TU without losing the defense buff, anyway I find it fun to play and useful, maybe the devs wanted it not to be a killer and to be executed differently

Perhaps Vanquish+ that requires 200tu.

Other mythics (deus) and even legends (wolhammer) have the same Vanquish skill that you essentially hope Risu gets to in order to use it. It needs to have a sexier “reward” to account for essentially being down 3vs4 (with the exception of being able to summon acorn of course). Heck, even Bundam has 300s Novablast - same tu requirement as Vanquish, but kills the entire team.

Another issue with acorn is that you can’t sacrifice it via acorn wish until after 100s since it’s first turn. Acorn’s only other moves are acorn rage (requires no Risu; 130s), duo mangler (160s) and aoe (200s). So doing the math, at 87 speed, acorn comes in at ~37s, then likely has to use a 160s move in order to hopefully be able to use wish. Roughly 200s before it can sacrifice itself is nuts, especially considering Risu can only summon one of them at a time. Yes, it revives something at the end of your team, but is that worth being down essentially 2v4 (with Risu) for 200s mid-game? Nope.

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The lady is already broken, do they want her to be mega super Shenron strong ???

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Based on your comment I’m 100% confident you haven’t played with her outside of SCB smh

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What’s the matter on that ? So I should own the monster to give my opinion about it ? Maybe I played with her only there but I played enough to get a clear opinion about her (more than 20 times ( maybe you should try testing there before awakning a mythic directly after realize then asks for buffs few days after

This argument is bad since whales basically get any new mythic that comes out and is not terrible (Candy :skull:).

Also this one had a discount on paid packs, so some people (me included) wanted to support the new option to show devs that we like it.

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I can’t believe I have to say it, but playing SCB with favorable teammates and opponents does not qualify as proper testing and is not a good measure of how well a mom will perform in the real world. It’s merely a peek into 5% of what using a mon feels like.

Again, proper testing cannot be accomplished via SCB. And I haven’t asked for anything - my comments on Risu above are merely my thoughts on whether she is viable or not and what changes I would make to her mechanic.

After all, the title of this thread is “Thoughts on Risu”. If I were asking for buffs I’d post in the buff thread.

Why is it that you’re always at the center of disagreements?

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I did this, although I spent a lot of money on the mythical one I think it is worth supporting these special banners with a discount on paid gems I hope they put it back up very soon @Dev_VKC

Maybe you see it personal but for me it’s not the case ! I’m talking neo here , just look at those stats
2000% defence boost !!!
2000 HP recover every turn
Token monster support
Token remover
For me it’s clear that monster is dope ! And Im objective on it
So if anyone asks for adjustments for such a monsters I think it’s common sense to say : this monster is already good in my opinion he doesn’t need buff

In my mind it’s definitely not a monster already needing buffing. It’s a complicated one to play and it’s crazily powerful for PvE. Seems like a balanced monster that might see some fringe PvP play in teams that can utilise it properly, more so than a bunch of mythics

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I don’t wake up a mythic to play PvE…if it’s not strong for PvP it needs to be buffed

It is difficult to play it in pvp because of what has been said, it is a monster that generates a 4-3 disadvantage for 300 seconds and then is not able to kill without losing stealth… I can only think of one way to take advantage of it but still I haven’t been able to try it since aracnadiva is limited…

but I doubt it will work

ps: I don’t care if they buff it, I will continue using it, I will find a way to use it

Sounds like you might’ve picked the wrong mythic :stuck_out_tongue:

There are plenty of ways to make this monster work and the fact it has to choose between killing or having camouflage is a clearly necessary part of the design. I don’t know why that’s even worth mentioning as a thing.

Arachnadiva is in the standard egg pool. You can hatch for it very frequently if you want it.

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