# Thoughts on Nyx ( New Mythic) **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [April 28, 2023, 3:08am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610 "2023-04-28T03:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tavaray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tavaray/32/84882_2.png) [@Tavaray](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tavaray)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 3:08am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/1 "2023-04-28T03:08:31Z")
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**Author:** ![Tavaray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tavaray/32/84882_2.png) [@Tavaray](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tavaray)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/2 "2023-04-28T03:09:43Z")
Why all these new mythics have 90+ speed lol ---
**Author:** ![Cesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cesar/32/76219_2.png) [@Cesar](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cesar)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 3:41am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/3 "2023-04-28T03:41:17Z")
not bad, but kattmander is faster he destroys it very easily ---
**Author:** ![EBO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ebo/32/44250_2.png) [@EBO](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EBO)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 3:51am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/4 "2023-04-28T03:51:45Z")
Wow, she looks really great 😍 ---
**Author:** ![Exu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/exu/32/62314_2.png) [@Exu](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Exu)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 4:27am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/5 "2023-04-28T04:27:34Z")
Ah, the DarkFairy makes her grand entrance. Fermata is pretty good. Wonder whether it will take into account bonuses or is it just the flat number in the monster stats? ---
**Author:** ![squinty1880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@squinty1880](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/squinty1880)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/6 "2023-04-28T04:32:31Z")
I’m pretty sure it’s like how frozen wave on Fiona works or frozen heart on Yukihime. ---
**Author:** ![Victorious77\_B.G](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/victorious77_b.g/32/57592_2.png) [@Victorious77\_B.G](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Victorious77_B.G)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 5:04am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/7 "2023-04-28T05:04:27Z")
where is Kohana Yuki??? who is this artist??? why does Nyx look like something out of Evertale ???(Alice+Aria=Nyx) and why does her initial form already look like a mythical ultra evolved??? ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 5:10am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/8 "2023-04-28T05:10:41Z")
trash. ---
**Author:** ![INA-Archer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ina-archer/32/37741_2.png) [@INA-Archer](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/INA-Archer)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 5:53am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/9 "2023-04-28T05:53:00Z")
Very good monster A/S- tier pvp B (or higher) tier PvE High potential monster . I am learn many stuff from Prem and I Will said this one is more easy to build then viona ---
**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 6:41am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/10 "2023-04-28T06:41:19Z")
Any accelerate overrides this fermata debuff… Is it an intended design? @Dev_VKC ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 11:49am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/11 "2023-04-28T11:49:49Z")
where are u getting these numbers? lets look at it properly - everyone is excited because of this “fermata” move which is daft because it is just like fionas frozen wave only it has a restriction and it also hits your own team which most players will try to compensate for by removing strong fast monsters from thier team. if she is killed first turn by something like megalodragon or Katt then u have wasted a space. Crescendo timestrike is a nice gimmick but people who play crescendo usually have no brain cells and like to stun lock a player’s team - hitting one with timestrike removes the lock. on top of that she doesn’t have Hg or a way to keep herself alive like polaboss or shivadragon therefore she will likely die before she can get going. her SS is just a joke. 3 extra cost for a 110 tu accelerate team? the only place i can potentially see her being useful is with OoO teams where in all honesty vulpink is still probably a better option for synergy as OoO mons generally have high speed and Vulpink offers better utility. B Tier PvP C Tier PvE ---
**Author:** ![squinty1880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@squinty1880](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/squinty1880)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 11:55am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/12 "2023-04-28T11:55:07Z")
> [@EMI\_Eklypz](#): > > B Tier PvP I didn’t know this now qualifies as “trash” 😂 I guess Harle is trash too right? ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 12:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/13 "2023-04-28T12:08:47Z")
KD ALWAYS underrates Harleking so thats a bad example. btw I’m not saying that she is useless theres just better options to do everything she does. ---
**Author:** ![INA-Archer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ina-archer/32/37741_2.png) [@INA-Archer](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/INA-Archer)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/14 "2023-04-28T12:10:34Z")
I am not sure cattmander can one shot her. Sometimes even wraithost survive again darkbane. and megalo basically just hard counter for her. I can use fermata like I did with combo ice Shield + rescuing give turn. Or just use it with fd maeve + fd iris. Nearly all pvp meta have high speed ,at least 50%+ … so the user need think again to use high speed fl. Cresenando timestrike basically unlimited Swift timestrike . So imo ,she is far from trash and high potential for meta changer . A or S- is best for her I place her pretty higher in pve since most of ai use aoe attack ---
**Author:** ![squinty1880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@squinty1880](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/squinty1880)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 12:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/15 "2023-04-28T12:11:20Z")
> [@EMI\_Eklypz](#): > > it is just like fionas frozen wave only it has a restriction and it also hits your own team You’re wrong in that it’s not like Fiona’s frozen wave. It’s like Yukihime frozen heart move, which does 100% deceleration and not 50%. That’s significantly more. Also your comment about the timestrike and stun spammers makes no sense because the crescendo move still functions like a crescendo move with the added effect of being timestrike as well. So they can just target the lowest tu Mon as it slowly stacks like they always do. ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 12:14pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/16 "2023-04-28T12:14:33Z")
> [@squinty1880](#): > > Also your comment about the timestrike and stun spammers makes no sense because the crescendo move still functions like a crescendo move with the added effect of being timestrike as well. So they can just target the lowest tu Mon as it slowly stacks like they always do. that WAS the comment i was trying to make. thats why i said the move was a gimmick. get yourself a vulpink. ---
**Author:** ![squinty1880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@squinty1880](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/squinty1880)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 12:14pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/17 "2023-04-28T12:14:50Z")
I have both and will use them together ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 12:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/18 "2023-04-28T12:15:16Z")
tbh i was thinking the same XD anyways good luck speeding up my stormloch ---
**Author:** ![squinty1880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@squinty1880](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/squinty1880)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/19 "2023-04-28T12:17:36Z")
I love how people either think this mythic is really good or is absolute trash. There’s no in between on opinions 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_LUCKDRAGON](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_luckdragon/32/44670_2.png) [@DMG\_LUCKDRAGON](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_LUCKDRAGON)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610/20 "2023-04-28T14:17:42Z")
Doesn’t Wraithhost always survive against Dark Bane because it has Hold Ground? [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/thoughts-on-nyx-new-mythic/43610.md?page=2)