# This is probably the best PvP event monster I've had an opportunity to get. **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [December 4, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382 "2018-12-04T23:55:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Z19Kiwi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/z19kiwi/32/12079_2.png) [@Z19Kiwi](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Z19Kiwi)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/21 "2018-12-05T02:41:37Z")
I think its safe to assume payback killer will kill anything no matter what. Over 8k against a earth type monster. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/2X/5/5339ee80794dd3ea38f18e068eb217d2e454723f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/22 "2018-12-05T03:09:20Z")
They don’t have u against a team in your league! Feel sorry for them. You probably GT it again and killed their Viridi next haha ---
**Author:** ![Z19Kiwi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/z19kiwi/32/12079_2.png) [@Z19Kiwi](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Z19Kiwi)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 4:46am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/23 "2018-12-05T04:46:56Z")
Haha well that was just a random fight against ai for testing purposes xD ---
**Author:** ![Thaiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5e925/32.png) [@Thaiger](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Thaiger)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 5:46am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/24 "2018-12-05T05:46:15Z")
Just to clarify in case you weren’t aware. The bird can only kill monsters with a death or payback revenge. Not stun or poison revenge monsters. I don’t think he will go in my team. Personally, Wall breaker is great, but especially in a meta with a lot of ret fl’s I will be keeping my icefang in 5th. Wallbreaker also will leave him with nothing until approx 150 sec (potted) is over or a give turn. Sendback seems strong tho. Payback killer will only work based on my experience, practically only if you’re playing @GaryOak lol. Other mons would be Hellfox Throw all dude Turt Rhino Pufferfish and green wolf thing Ultima Deathwarg Divine shield bird and dragon Mortar triceratops Talo & Firedrake I hope I didnt miss any… Out of these, Ultima, Turt, and Fox seemed to be the most played and even then I don’t see them too often and turt is normally a liability in my eyes on the other team. Needless to say, I love the design tho! Great monster, just not one I will be putting on my team. ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 5:54am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/25 "2018-12-05T05:54:59Z")
I whole-heartedly agree. Those were my exact thoughts too. It’s a SE protector counter aka a worse version of Jawshank which comes with a counter to DR too if we ever need that somewhere. Raw bloodfury makes it slightly more versatile but it’s still too restrictive to be used in top PvP teams unless you know it’s going to work in the current meta. It’s good to see how strong payback revenge is, so it can be used in all PvE content except UC if we face a battle with lots of DR. ---
**Author:** ![Exu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/exu/32/62314_2.png) [@Exu](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Exu)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 6:10am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/26 "2018-12-05T06:10:19Z")
Damn. I really need to start grinding. What an amazing monster! I also love how the first evolve name is Turbo 😂 I NE’d at that ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/27 "2018-12-05T11:05:29Z")
Really good monster love the design i would love it more if it had solo instead of raw or has stun immunity which would make it amazing. I still perfer ice feng because so that i can get to that gyo or bb hiding behind protectors. ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/28 "2018-12-05T11:10:51Z")
I’d prefer shark, quicker and is never a burden ---
**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/29 "2018-12-05T11:52:04Z")
Thanks for the clarification. Didn’t know that. Probably not S+ super epic then. But still very good mon. Now the devs will release one with an enhanced payback killer that negates all revenge moves. They will call it: “Revenge Killer” ---
**Author:** ![Exu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/exu/32/62314_2.png) [@Exu](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Exu)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 12:06pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/30 "2018-12-05T12:06:39Z")
I guess that’s why Shark is a legend and Aviaeronix SE? ---
**Author:** ![TheGreatest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/thegreatest/32/10747_2.png) [@TheGreatest](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TheGreatest)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/31 "2018-12-05T12:14:46Z")
Does payback killer stop the DR triggering? If it does, Rip Gary. If it doesn’t then it would seem a bit counterintuitive, since the DR mon still fulfilled its main purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Z19Kiwi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/z19kiwi/32/12079_2.png) [@Z19Kiwi](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Z19Kiwi)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/32 "2018-12-05T12:15:43Z")
it does stop the dr triggering 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/33 "2018-12-05T12:21:01Z")
Nonono, that’s why shark has a motorbike and Aviaeronix doesn’t ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_Oak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/professor_oak/32/25565_2.png) [@Professor\_Oak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Professor_Oak)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 1:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/34 "2018-12-05T13:11:26Z")
U r wrong… Avia has better… not 1 but 4 rockets on it’s back… To support it’s send back "We are blasting off again kek " . ---
**Author:** ![measy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/measy/32/11391_2.png) [@measy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/measy)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/35 "2018-12-05T18:03:24Z")
I would love to earn that new bird SE… but pvp sucks hard at the moment… Many connection problems on opponent site and mine aswell… and just op-opponents if you find one… ---
**Author:** ![kocowind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kocowind/32/5640_2.png) [@kocowind](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kocowind)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/36 "2018-12-05T21:10:10Z")
Will turt copy the bird if it is killed by payback killer? ---
**Author:** ![ILAGaLOT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ilagalot/32/19929_2.png) [@ILAGaLOT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ILAGaLOT)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/37 "2018-12-05T21:35:49Z")
No it won’t ---
**Author:** ![NMEGaryOak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmegaryoak/32/20469_2.png) [@NMEGaryOak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEGaryOak)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/38 "2018-12-05T23:16:27Z")
@Dev_VKC why is a motorcycle faster than a jet pack in Neo? Also why do you keep nerfing me? 😭 ---
**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/39 "2018-12-06T01:23:38Z")
Maybe they think you are op. Who knows… ---
**Author:** ![xWarlordx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/xwarlordx/32/8034_2.png) [@xWarlordx](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/xWarlordx)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 6:28am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/this-is-probably-the-best-pvp-event-monster-ive-had-an-opportunity-to-get/16382/40 "2018-12-06T06:28:45Z")
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