# The worst moveset possible? **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [September 12, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576 "2022-09-12T21:12:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/1 "2022-09-12T21:12:04Z")
We’ve already had a thread on the strongest moveset possible, and I think that I did a pretty decent job of coming up with a strong, if not technically unbeatable, moveset. However, this left me wondering. Given how amazing some of these movesets are, what is the worst one that we could come up with? Hence this thread. **RULES:** 1. You must provide 4 active abilities, 2 passive abilities, and 1 secret skill 2. All abilities must be useable, so no RAW abilities on APers or entrance abilities with Serene Field(not that anyone would be dumb enough to do that) 3. The monster is assumed to be an awakened mythic with average stats across the board. As such, abilities which are exclusive to low evolution monsters(e.g. ministone) are also banned 4. Synergies with other monsters are considered, so it should’t be useful no matter what you do My best go: Type: Shadow Actives: Clone Next Blood Clone Next Shadow Double Create Duplicate Passives: Eternal Revival Haunt SS: Shadow Clone The idea is simple: The only thing it can do is disrupt your own strategy. Between Haunt and Eternal Revival, it’s difficult to even get rid of it, and once it dies, it reappears in your team at random, further messing up your strategy. Even if you only skip turn, there’s a decent chance that its two revival abilities will cause it to multiply anyway. There’s no point in using its 5 clone abilities to create more of them, since they serve no purpose to your team. Honestly, you could argue that this moveset is kinda op, since it’s nearly impossible to lose while using it, but It’s also pretty annoying to win, so I think it counts. ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/4 "2022-09-12T21:59:51Z")
Backstab Backbite Ritual IV Cannibalise Tholid. Cannot target itself SS - Accelerate. Sure it can clear tokens but it will clear the rest of the team too. Passives are to ensure it gets turns. Accelerate to chew through teammates even faster ---
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 10:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/5 "2022-09-12T22:28:48Z")
The issue is that you can just spam turn skips. Sure, it’s annoying, and having a useless monsters with mythic level survivability could turn the match, but it’s not as bad as having it constantly revive, and it can kill tokens. Would be worse if we say no Turn-Skipping, though ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/6 "2022-09-12T22:32:57Z")
Actives - load mortar Pullback Mortar Parasitic Curse Exit Plan passives - Roaring entrance Frenzy SS- Retreat ---
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/7 "2022-09-12T22:34:06Z")
Fair enough ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/8 "2022-09-12T22:53:48Z")
I mean, every enemy would just skip back 🤷🏻‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/9 "2022-09-12T23:02:07Z")
Or more likely kill your normal, non-useless monsters ---
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/10 "2022-09-12T23:02:35Z")
It’s just a really durable token basically ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/11 "2022-09-12T23:11:12Z")
Yeah but it has to make a turn, which means it has to kill a TM lol. Enemies will just skip back and then something dies. That’s much worse than just having something sit there. ---
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/12 "2022-09-13T01:04:06Z")
If your opponent skips back, you can just skip again. Is this some weird new PvP rule they added? ---
**Author:** ![DMGInterference](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmginterference/32/50532_2.png) [@DMGInterference](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMGInterference)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 7:06am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/13 "2022-09-13T07:06:49Z")
As far as I remember (and I’m talking about 2017), PvP had this rule: if you skip and the opponent skips on the turn immediately after, you cannot skip in the following action ---
**Author:** ![ItsSherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 7:37am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/14 "2022-09-13T07:37:26Z")
It could just kill itself? ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 7:58am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/15 "2022-09-13T07:58:00Z")
Sorry I’m confused. I thought you said the user can just skip? So I was saying the enemy will skip back, forcing a turn ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 7:59am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/16 "2022-09-13T07:59:28Z")
Exactly 😊 ---
**Author:** ![The\_bondqueror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/the_bondqueror/32/80824_2.png) [@The\_bondqueror](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/The_bondqueror)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/17 "2022-09-13T13:42:02Z")
100sec nova blast 200 sec nova blast 300 sec nova blast send back ss 400 sec nova blast passive gravity field hold ground ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/18 "2022-09-13T15:36:42Z")
that sounds dope. except gravity field with sendback ---
**Author:** ![Unholy\_Prem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unholy_prem/32/81598_2.png) [@Unholy\_Prem](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unholy_Prem)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/19 "2022-09-13T16:08:35Z")
nice idea What if we change 4th skill to instant self shield (unlimited times just like coretta ) and instead of hold groud skip ban 😂 ---
**Author:** ![ArcticTheHunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/arcticthehunter/32/30355_2.png) [@ArcticTheHunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ArcticTheHunter)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/20 "2022-09-13T19:17:43Z")
That doesn’t seem nearly as bad as Lemons. Actually, it sounds pretty decent, though not up to ythic standards. Also, no sendback with gravity field cause rule 2 ---
**Author:** ![NMEGaryOak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmegaryoak/32/20469_2.png) [@NMEGaryOak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEGaryOak)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/21 "2022-09-13T23:24:18Z")
Protect Focus Element massacre Knockback Random Knockback Next Mark Entrance Mortar Entrance ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576/22 "2022-09-13T23:31:11Z")
I’m guessing we can only pick moves that already exist. Also, every monster needs to have a move which can damage an enemy (general monster design rule they have). Okay, I’ll have a go… Actives: () In the zone () Death curse () From the brink () Baby summon (baby has top two skills and unmovable) (SS) Element shift (goes between holy and shadow) Passives: () Unmovable () Overexcited [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-worst-moveset-possible/40576.md?page=2)