# The Arkadion Masters Challenge! **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP\ **Created:** [April 27, 2014, 12:38pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663 "2014-04-27T12:38:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kittykat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kittykat/32/1015_2.png) [@Kittykat](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Kittykat)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/21 "2014-04-27T21:01:59Z")
This sounds really fun! I want to challenge all the leaders and get mah badges lol My favorite food: rice, or burgers. I’m not going for a leader but I do read the rules of stuff 😛 I kinda do want water leader but master can have it… ---
**Author:** ![Crystal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Crystal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Crystal)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/22 "2014-04-27T21:07:54Z")
> [@ewertonrodrigo](#): > > Angelon, halopard? > The way I see it, correct if Im wrong, to be the the fire master you need to be able to defeat all opponents fire team. If you want to defeat the fire master, you build up a fire team yourself and challenge him. Otherwise I can easily beat the fire team using a water team. You missed the rule where you’re allowed a single Ark that’s the “stronger” element to the leader you’d be facing. & that’s why I suggested that when challenging a leader for their position you must run the same type of lineup. ---
**Author:** ![jjchen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@jjchen1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/jjchen1)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/23 "2014-04-27T21:45:01Z")
> [@ewertonrodrigo](#): > > Angelon, halopard? > The way I see it, correct if Im wrong, to be the the fire master you need to be able to defeat all opponents fire team. If you want to defeat the fire master, you build up a fire team yourself and challenge him. Otherwise I can easily beat the fire team using a water team. You can only use one water ark facing the fire team, one fire for facing earth team, etc ---
**Author:** ![Drybones901](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/drybones901/32/55_2.png) [@Drybones901](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Drybones901)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 9:54pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/24 "2014-04-27T21:54:34Z")
Question: if i take water, or earth or something, can i still challenge another leader? Say fire? ---
**Author:** ![bogus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/bogus/32/1623_2.png) [@bogus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/bogus)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/25 "2014-04-27T23:28:00Z")
We need more people to sign up to be the leaders of the gym … as well as people trying to get all the badges. @drybones: That’s a valid question. I’d say that you should be allowed to challenge the other leaders and also eventually the final 4. That would generate more traffic (battles) and it is fun for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Crystal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Crystal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Crystal)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 11:47pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/26 "2014-04-27T23:47:23Z")
I agree with Eddster. I see no reason why we shouldn’t challenge each other. It’ll be good practice, especially if we want to switch gyms every so often! ---
**Author:** ![ewertonrodrigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6de8d8/32.png) [@ewertonrodrigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ewertonrodrigo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/27 "2014-04-28T01:36:15Z")
> [@Crystal](#): > > You missed the rule where you’re allowed a single Ark that’s the “stronger” element to the leader you’d be facing. > > & that’s why I suggested that when challenging a leader for their position you must run the same type of lineup. By the same type I think it should mean all arks the same type. Otherwise we will have the same SS, Kami, Omega, Cryo, etc in every single team. Then we might as well just play normal PVP. If we limit to only arks of the same type, we can have some interesting lineups as you have to step out of your comfort zone and figure out ways to use 5, 6 stars arks. ---
**Author:** ![jjchen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@jjchen1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/jjchen1)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 1:39am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/28 "2014-04-28T01:39:03Z")
> [@ewertonrodrigo](#): > > By the same type I think it should mean all arks the same type. > Otherwise we will have the same SS, Kami, Omega, Cryo, etc in every single team. Then we might as well just play normal PVP. > If we limit to only arks of the same type, we can have some interesting lineups as you have to step out of your comfort zone and figure out ways to use 5, 6 stars arks. Well if you are the fire leader, you cant use kami or cryo…but i do see your point however the element less would have problems then. ---
**Author:** ![ewertonrodrigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6de8d8/32.png) [@ewertonrodrigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ewertonrodrigo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 1:51am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/29 "2014-04-28T01:51:50Z")
Well, there aren’t 15 holy arks (at least I don’t have), why not making holy and elementless as one category? ---
**Author:** ![Lethalmilk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lethalmilk/32/2093_2.png) [@Lethalmilk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Lethalmilk)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/30 "2014-04-28T01:53:32Z")
Elementless arks actually have a weakness of other elementless arks btw. ---
**Author:** ![Drybones901](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/drybones901/32/55_2.png) [@Drybones901](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Drybones901)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 1:57am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/31 "2014-04-28T01:57:11Z")
> [@Lethalmilk](#): > > Elementless arks actually have a weakness of other elementless arks btw. Just like in DIB, Arcane was strong and weak against Arcane ---
**Author:** ![ewertonrodrigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6de8d8/32.png) [@ewertonrodrigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ewertonrodrigo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 2:07am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/32 "2014-04-28T02:07:15Z")
If this game wasn’t dying it could actually be implemented, as part of pvp, specific element arenas, where you can only choose the respective arks with a ranking system that would determine the leader. Maybe an idea for the new game to keep pvp more interesting. ---
**Author:** ![You1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/you1/32/2392_2.png) [@You1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/You1)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 11:11am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/33 "2014-04-28T11:11:31Z")
> [@ewertonrodrigo](#): > > Well, there aren’t 15 holy arks (at least I don’t have), why not making holy and elementless as one category? If u read the rules u only need 7 ---
**Author:** ![ewertonrodrigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6de8d8/32.png) [@ewertonrodrigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ewertonrodrigo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 12:21pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/34 "2014-04-28T12:21:37Z")
> [@You1](#): > > If u read the rules u only need 7 That wasn’t the discussion, If you read the posts you will see I was suggesting the whole team of the same element. Plus I don’t have even 7 elementless, only 6 counting minespider. ---
**Author:** ![Crystal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Crystal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Crystal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/35 "2014-04-28T17:46:08Z")
That’s why it’s been suggested otherwise from having a whole team dedicated to solely one type. It’d be far too easy to beat to begin with, as well as some types don’t even have that many arks. ---
**Author:** ![ewertonrodrigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6de8d8/32.png) [@ewertonrodrigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ewertonrodrigo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/36 "2014-04-28T18:22:48Z")
> [@Crystal](#): > > That’s why it’s been suggested otherwise from having a whole team dedicated to solely one type. It’d be far too easy to beat to begin with, as well as some types don’t even have that many arks. I get that, but my team for instance already has 7 wind arks, so It will not change anything from normal PVP if I were to play the wind master. Ok, maybe get rid of scorpionix and vegitiger, but it wouldn’t change that much at the end of the day. I like the idea but I think it still need some tweaking to introduce more diversity. ---
**Author:** ![You1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/you1/32/2392_2.png) [@You1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/You1)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/37 "2014-04-28T20:27:53Z")
> [@ewertonrodrigo](#): > > That wasn’t the discussion, If you read the posts you will see I was suggesting the whole team of the same element. > Plus I don’t have even 7 elementless, only 6 counting minespider. The rules still say 7, u can’t change that. Also if Goldius comes out soon (wink wink) then u could add an element less. ---
**Author:** ![jjchen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@jjchen1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/jjchen1)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/38 "2014-04-28T21:15:59Z")
> [@You1](#): > > The rules still say 7, u can’t change that. > Also if Goldius comes out soon (wink wink) then u could add an element less. I think there are 7 Nilo Nilox Nilomoth Arkwing Omegawyrm Musharoo Minespider Metallodius ---
**Author:** ![You1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/you1/32/2392_2.png) [@You1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/You1)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/39 "2014-04-28T21:19:33Z")
And metallo. 😉 Anyways this does sound like fun. ---
**Author:** ![ewertonrodrigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6de8d8/32.png) [@ewertonrodrigo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ewertonrodrigo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663/40 "2014-04-28T22:45:38Z")
You can’t use the pre evolutions in pvp. [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/the-arkadion-masters-challenge/2663.md?page=3)