# Stop saying that Hordes monsters "are not any stronger than yours"! **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [July 11, 2018, 9:01am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281 "2018-07-11T09:01:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SaSSolino8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/sassolino8/32/25447_2.png) [@SaSSolino8](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/SaSSolino8)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 9:01am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/1 "2018-07-11T09:01:56Z")
It’s clear as day that they are buffed, why do you advertise otherwise?! ---
**Author:** ![Dev\_VKC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dev_vkc/32/55057_2.png) [@Dev\_VKC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Dev_VKC)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 10:17am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/2 "2018-07-11T10:17:15Z")
All the enemy monsters stats should be the same as yours. They are not buffed. Please let us know if you found some battles weird. ---
**Author:** ![SaSSolino8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/sassolino8/32/25447_2.png) [@SaSSolino8](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/SaSSolino8)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 10:32am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/3 "2018-07-11T10:32:08Z")
Some 1st form se and even some epics survived a protector killer from my Shadowyrm. Others survived a Zhulong sneak attack or a Terrordragon poison massacre (4x poisons). Some also survived Tiamaz’s and Banedragon poison eaters. All unevolved. ---
**Author:** ![TNB\_iSegal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tnb_isegal/32/6243_2.png) [@TNB\_iSegal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNB_iSegal)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 11:19am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/4 "2018-07-11T11:19:30Z")
Not sure if it still happens, but i did see before unevolved monsters that are buffed where they shouldnt be (i aint playing much evets now so cant tell if it still happens). Maybe it havnt been fixed? ---
**Author:** ![Woodward](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/woodward/32/28617_2.png) [@Woodward](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Woodward)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 11:27am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/5 "2018-07-11T11:27:27Z")
What level? Rookie to extreme? ---
**Author:** ![SaSSolino8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/sassolino8/32/25447_2.png) [@SaSSolino8](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/SaSSolino8)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 11:27am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/6 "2018-07-11T11:27:59Z")
To me happened in the first 2 levels. I’m playing the 3rd one now. ---
**Author:** ![Woodward](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/woodward/32/28617_2.png) [@Woodward](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Woodward)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 11:28am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/7 "2018-07-11T11:28:50Z")
I’m only gonna do the third anyway. Just for ocarino. Hopefully they won’t survive raizen and oak enslaught ---
**Author:** ![Woodward](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/woodward/32/28617_2.png) [@Woodward](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Woodward)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/8 "2018-07-11T12:05:54Z")
Oh dear god. I just saw a dullakhan and nilos survive raizen tsd that would have decimated most legends. Oh and by survive I mean barely take damage! ---
**Author:** ![Boiler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/boiler/32/19099_2.png) [@Boiler](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Boiler)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/9 "2018-07-11T12:07:35Z")
I just assumed they were always buffed and that’s what made each set of levels more difficult. ---
**Author:** ![kocowind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kocowind/32/5640_2.png) [@kocowind](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kocowind)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/10 "2018-07-11T12:08:19Z")
Same priblem since the first hordes event. ---
**Author:** ![Rctuga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/rctuga/32/56460_2.png) [@Rctuga](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Rctuga)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/11 "2018-07-11T12:43:04Z")
On extreme the link holy bear on 1st form survived a poison massacre from terror with around 40%hp so yeah he was buffed ---
**Author:** ![SaSSolino8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/sassolino8/32/25447_2.png) [@SaSSolino8](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/SaSSolino8)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/12 "2018-07-11T13:18:34Z")
After the dev’s reply I thought I was the only one for a moment. Now no offense to the devs, but do you guys even test this stuff? Back to the topic, I have no issue with fighting buffed monsters in this event, but do you mind correcting that statement? ---
**Author:** ![Boiler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/boiler/32/19099_2.png) [@Boiler](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Boiler)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 1:24pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/13 "2018-07-11T13:24:56Z")
I agree. It makes sense that they would get a buff at higher levels but say they’re buffed. ---
**Author:** ![kocowind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kocowind/32/5640_2.png) [@kocowind](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kocowind)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/14 "2018-07-11T14:21:11Z")
Actually, only the non-fully-evolved monsters are buffed, so it is an everlasting bug as we did report it several times. ---
**Author:** ![SaSSolino8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/sassolino8/32/25447_2.png) [@SaSSolino8](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/SaSSolino8)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/15 "2018-07-11T14:23:04Z")
So unevolved monsters are actually stronger than evolved ones in this event. Weird. ---
**Author:** ![Xyzencross](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/xyzencross/32/6251_2.png) [@Xyzencross](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Xyzencross)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/16 "2018-07-11T14:31:32Z")
1st level and baby forms monsters survive 2 aoe from blightwyrm and gallio and some live after my nox’s assisted aoe, man oh man ---
**Author:** ![Woodward](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/woodward/32/28617_2.png) [@Woodward](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Woodward)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/17 "2018-07-11T14:46:49Z")
Yea I’ve noticed some are buffed and f you k kick them back they unbuff. So the buffs seem to be inconsistnent ---
**Author:** ![Dev\_VKC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dev_vkc/32/55057_2.png) [@Dev\_VKC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Dev_VKC)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/18 "2018-07-11T15:33:14Z")
I see. Much appreciate for the feedback. We will look into this issue. ---
**Author:** ![kocowind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kocowind/32/5640_2.png) [@kocowind](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kocowind)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/19 "2018-07-11T18:07:24Z")
Tip: check the status of earlier forms of high defense monsters (epic or above). ---
**Author:** ![Exu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/exu/32/62314_2.png) [@Exu](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Exu)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281/20 "2018-07-11T20:34:15Z")
The epic heal/give turners always have crazy defense as well. [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stop-saying-that-hordes-monsters-are-not-any-stronger-than-yours/13281.md?page=2)