# Stealthbane **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [August 4, 2017, 9:47am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941 "2017-08-04T09:47:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 7:54am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/21 "2017-08-05T07:54:24Z")
But for sweeping purposes the new guy is far better. Looks like icefang will be reduced to utility anti-sweep. K, good to have clarification on that. Quite interesting. Probably not as broken then as I first thought. Could we make poison touch applicable to allies? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 8:12am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/22 "2017-08-05T08:12:12Z")
Tbh the monster is not powerful as ppl are saying. 1. He cant deal with tt+ stag because of speed and element type. 2. If there is no protector in fl hes pretty much dead weight. 3. He is 59 speed in order to setup other monsters they have to be slower then him. ---
**Author:** ![Laxtankk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/laxtankk/32/12497_2.png) [@Laxtankk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Laxtankk)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 8:49am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/23 "2017-08-05T08:49:18Z")
> [@Mr.X](#): > > Tbh the monster is not powerful as ppl are saying. > > 1. He cant deal with tt+ stag because of speed and element type. > 2. If there is no protector in fl hes pretty much dead weight. > 3. He is 59 speed in order to setup other monsters they have to be slower then him. he’s actually quite balanced really imo although stealthbane does ■■■■ all damage even when there’s no elemental disadvantage ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 10:18am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/24 "2017-08-05T10:18:57Z")
> [@Laxtankk](#): > > he’s actually quite balanced really imo although stealthbane does \*\*\*\* all damage even when there’s no elemental disadvantage I agree hes balanced ---
**Author:** ![Laxtankk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/laxtankk/32/12497_2.png) [@Laxtankk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Laxtankk)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 10:36am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/25 "2017-08-05T10:36:09Z")
> [@Mr.X](#): > > I agree hes balanced stealthbane does need to do a bit more damage however it’s bovo slayerbane damage and everyone says how bad that is ---
**Author:** ![ILAGaLOT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ilagalot/32/19929_2.png) [@ILAGaLOT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ILAGaLOT)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 10:46am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/26 "2017-08-05T10:46:05Z")
New monsters are fine they don’t down play any strat to make them bad and icefang is still mvp Sorry to hear you rolled nothing zard but if you had saved for 6 packs you would have got at least 1 new legend it’s all about saving and picking when to roll if you want more options start spending otherwise save up 300 Gems and wait for a festival that you like ---
**Author:** ![Buckingham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/buckingham/32/5780_2.png) [@Buckingham](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Buckingham)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 10:47am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/27 "2017-08-05T10:47:10Z")
> [@Xyzencross](#): > > Yeah you’re right about that, I would use assassinate on stag if there are other monsters that have shield or at hg. Then again its up to you on how you utilize your resources. I bet you rolled for emerald for your throw team? And got it. 300 gems but worth it ---
**Author:** ![Xyzencross](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/xyzencross/32/6251_2.png) [@Xyzencross](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Xyzencross)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 12:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/28 "2017-08-05T12:10:15Z")
> [@Buckingham](#): > > And got it. 300 gems but worth it Was emerald the only legend that you got? I’m waiting for anniversary to spend my 300. 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Tarez18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tarez18](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tarez18)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/29 "2017-08-05T13:45:05Z")
> [@Zard](#): > > The devs are whacking stealth with a giant nerfbat and it isn’t even a viable strategy -\_- > > Seriously, look at the meta, all poison and motordragons. With a few outliers. Stealth is already in a bad place. > > Now superepic protectors will be irrelevant too. Meaning that stun got a massive buff(again). > > It also nerfs revival, which was slowly coming into frutition. Due to aurodragon having mist. But with this may as well kill another perfectly good strategy. > > Soon it will be steotor(stun + geo + motor) and brotth(Bane + Vulcaroth + TT). Team in top 50. With little to no varience. > > Seriously, I think that devs need to just make a dev account and stick it in the top 50. Then play a few games to see how toxic these strategies are. > > This, and the fact that the distribution system is whacked out where you either have copious amounts of luck or money in order to win means that the game is in a bad place. All the other games I have played have given players the option to buy the highest rarity object. 1 limited legend is not going to make an impact when you can’t choose what it is. Deathgazer vs tenebris for instance. 1 fits a poison strategy and 1 fits a strategy that doesn’t exist almost at all and just got a nerf. > > Not to mention that the new monster is a Revanarchion buff, a deodragon buff, an autopoisoner buff, to a lesser extent a motor buff(double repulse), a massive stun buff(which is already meta), and a terrordragon buff. All of which are monster which don’t need a buff. > > Now take a look at the nerf list: > Drakozord > Se protectors > Warca > Bazilogon > Stag > Aurodragon > Tenebris > > The thing is, all but 2 of these monsters are completely struggling in the current meta. > This, coupled with the fact that all the devs want to do is release limited legends all day, means that the game is currently going a total of nowhere. > > Fricken evaluate what a new move does before you create a new monster. Or talk to your moderators(not just lochi). > > Yes, I know it doesn’t do a lot of damage now, but instead of buffing it, just replace the move. All it does is make the cancer meta into a completely unbearable P2W > mess where you have to have a few specific limited legendaries in order to compete. Then it’s just a question of who gets the RNG to make their TT go first. The game is moving away from strategy because of the strategy that is “make the opponent not have a strategy”, or “invalidate a team lineup with a single monster”(still motor). > > Also, Bloodfury + assassinate + sustain in poison drain? May as well just invalidate icefang while you are at it. > > Terrible move devs. . . ---
**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/30 "2017-08-05T18:05:54Z")
Tbh they are still whacking stealth with it. I was sick and tired at the time of my rant. I apologize. ---
**Author:** ![Laxtankk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/laxtankk/32/12497_2.png) [@Laxtankk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Laxtankk)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/31 "2017-08-05T20:28:09Z")
> [@Zard](#): > > Tbh they are still whacking stealth with it. I was sick and tired at the time of my rant. I apologize. all good dude ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/32 "2017-08-08T12:55:10Z")
> [@Zard](#): > > Tbh they are still whacking stealth with it. I was sick and tired at the time of my rant. I apologize. I think we all saw exactly where you were coming from. In the recent updates they just managed to start forming stealth as a strategy, nicely buffing a lot of those weaker legendaries like Bazilogon and Aurodragon. I’ve been using these myself and seeing A LOT of stealth in mid-tier PvP. My team let’s me go into the top-tier too and I see all the poison, motordragon and stun strategies up there but in the mid-tier stealth is definitely seeing a lot of use. So the fact it’s being used a lot means it probably should have some kind of counter. Maybe we’ll get a legend on neo monsters’ birthday this year that hits enemies through their stealth (kinda like Penguinator hitting through HG right?) but for now I’m glad we’ve got Stealthbane. Personally I’ve been messed up by stealth a few times now and the meta often includes monsters with the ability to hit 2 at once so camouflage can be a big hassle to deal with. If anything, Stealthbane is a good counter to camouflage monsters and long overdue. I’ve never been able to take out camo monsters easily until I got Cyclozar (now I can FINALLY deal with Stag) but ones like Emeraldeus can be very difficult to deal with for some people. All my personal opinion here but I can see why they added a Stealthbane monster and hope in the future we get more monsters that properly affect the top-tier PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Laxtankk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/laxtankk/32/12497_2.png) [@Laxtankk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Laxtankk)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/33 "2017-08-08T13:29:11Z")
stealthbane won’t really affect the top tier at the moment, stag and drako are the 2 main stealth ones and shadowwyrm just destroys both of these now, however I can see alba being used at the top due to stun immune bloodfury ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/34 "2017-08-08T13:41:35Z")
Alba only downside is his speed. At fl you would have trouble reaching opponent tt because all chrono killers are faster then him. ---
**Author:** ![Laxtankk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/laxtankk/32/12497_2.png) [@Laxtankk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Laxtankk)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/35 "2017-08-08T13:51:51Z")
> [@Mr.X](#): > > Alba only downside is his speed. At fl you would have trouble reaching opponent tt because all chrono killers are faster then him. 59 speed, not weak to chrono killer, plus how would it matter he can’t kill tt anyway with his moveset ---
**Author:** ![Lucrayzor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lucrayzor/32/31298_2.png) [@Lucrayzor](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Lucrayzor)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/36 "2017-08-08T14:01:11Z")
> [@Zard](#): > > I rolled a very nice bunch of nothing. 0 new legends. Would have loved the thrower. > It says “if the monster has camouflage or stealth”. Kinda ambiguous if you ask me. > It is that way currently, but all the new monster does is encourage Boring. > The point still stands about having icefang be irrelevant now. Well Icefang gets his turn instantly, which is quite an edge over alba, not to mention he can stun while alba can’t. They each have their advantages. ---
**Author:** ![Sig13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Sig13](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Sig13)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/37 "2017-08-08T14:55:35Z")
> [@Lucrayzor](#): > > Well Icefang gets his turn instantly, which is quite an edge over alba, not to mention he can stun while alba can’t. They each have their advantages. Agree roaring is quite powerful and stun pulse is helpful as well. Still would’ve been nice to get Alba instead of the f ing turtle ---
**Author:** ![Lucrayzor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lucrayzor/32/31298_2.png) [@Lucrayzor](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Lucrayzor)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/38 "2017-08-08T15:08:40Z")
> [@Sig13](#): > > Agree roaring is quite powerful and stun pulse is helpful as well. Still would’ve been nice to get Alba instead of the f ing turtle Are you kidding? I would LOVE to have that thing. He’s the only stun absorber in the game that doesn’t expose you to assassinate or chrono killer. If you’re worried about him not having rocks handy in time, either put an extra fodder mon in the back or drop a summon entrance mon in front of him, and he’s ready to go. ---
**Author:** ![Laxtankk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/laxtankk/32/12497_2.png) [@Laxtankk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Laxtankk)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941/39 "2017-08-08T16:10:38Z")
his throw is surprisingly strong, my mid form no where near maxed tort almost 1 shot shadowwyrm, I know it’s not a super bulky mon, but after only 60 training points from hatch that’s some big damage [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/stealthbane/6941.md?page=1)