# Speed variance (solved) **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [July 29, 2016, 11:05am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689 "2016-07-29T11:05:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ILAGaLOT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ilagalot/32/19929_2.png) [@ILAGaLOT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ILAGaLOT)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 11:05am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/1 "2016-07-29T11:05:40Z")
I was going to wait to post this But here is the speed variance so far it’s been 100% accurate and I spent a lot of time testing it and working it out. Each bonus adds 1 sec speed Speed variable comes into play if there is more then 6 seconds difference if so it gets cut by 5 seconds The speed variable can fluctuate By 0 - 3 seconds so if the difference between two monsters is between this amount who goes first is determined by random The monsters on your team can influence the random 0-3 second variable either to be favourable or unfavourable The 3 second random variable only shows up with a higher speed difference the exact amount I have not pin pointed So most times its 0-2 with 3 being rare ---
**Author:** ![Guwop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/guwop/32/12115_2.png) [@Guwop](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Guwop)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 11:36am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/2 "2016-07-29T11:36:04Z")
For the variable comes if there 6 sec difference between who and getting cut by 5 ?  ---
**Author:** ![ILAGaLOT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ilagalot/32/19929_2.png) [@ILAGaLOT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ILAGaLOT)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 11:55am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/3 "2016-07-29T11:55:47Z")
Ok example Zephy and Tia Zephy=27 Tia = 38 11 sec difference cut Tia by 5 seconds Tia = 33 Zephy= 27 Add bonus to zephy eg +9 Tia = 33 Zephy = 36 Zephy goes first if you make Tia +7 it will go first > [@booth](#): > > For the variable comes if there 6 sec difference between who and getting cut by 5 ? the monster closes to it in speed on the battle multiple monsters will effect each other in a chain reaction ---
**Author:** ![Guwop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/guwop/32/12115_2.png) [@Guwop](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Guwop)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 11:57am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/4 "2016-07-29T11:57:30Z")
Now I know why my alpha outspeed my auto poisoners  ---
**Author:** ![TheGreatest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/thegreatest/32/10747_2.png) [@TheGreatest](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TheGreatest)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/5 "2016-07-29T12:37:08Z")
38-5=33 btw It makes sense…thanks lochi for that… ---
**Author:** ![ILAGaLOT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ilagalot/32/19929_2.png) [@ILAGaLOT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ILAGaLOT)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/6 "2016-07-29T12:41:46Z")
> [@TheGreatest](#): > > 38-5=33 btw > > It makes sense…thanks lochi for that… lol my bad thanks for catching that ---
**Author:** ![Snuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Snuffy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Snuffy)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/7 "2016-07-29T12:56:19Z")
I’m still confused 😅 I kinda get it, could you dumb it down any more? ---
**Author:** ![ILAGaLOT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ilagalot/32/19929_2.png) [@ILAGaLOT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ILAGaLOT)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:09pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/8 "2016-07-29T13:09:40Z")
I was trying to figure out a way to dumb it down but I wanted to share it When I find a better way to explain And go deeper into detail I will ---
**Author:** ![Snuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Snuffy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Snuffy)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:21pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/9 "2016-07-29T13:21:12Z")
> [@Loughlin\\\_Mcallister](#): > > I was trying to figure out a way to dumb it down but I wanted to share it > When I find a better way to explain And go deeper into detail I will haha alright then ---
**Author:** ![Buckingham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/buckingham/32/5780_2.png) [@Buckingham](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Buckingham)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/10 "2016-07-29T14:14:37Z")
When I get back on the 1st I’ll summarise it so it’s hopefully a bit simpler ---
**Author:** ![Snuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Snuffy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Snuffy)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/11 "2016-07-29T14:15:23Z")
> [@Buckingham](#): > > When I get back on the 1st I’ll summarise it so it’s hopefully a bit simpler thanks! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ILAGaLOT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ilagalot/32/19929_2.png) [@ILAGaLOT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ILAGaLOT)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/12 "2016-07-29T14:28:42Z")
> [@Buckingham](#): > > When I get back on the 1st I’ll summarise it so it’s hopefully a bit simpler thanks man I couldn’t wait to post it 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Tyrone\_Hill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tyrone_hill/32/3478_2.png) [@Tyrone\_Hill](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tyrone_Hill)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/13 "2016-07-29T20:10:32Z")
For the most part your right. I’ll its not quite that drastic though. I’ll use my soylstealer and frostrider for example. My frost has a 55 speed and soul has 65 speed. I made frost a +9 but soul was a plus one. So my frost always went first by 3 seconds. Once soul was a plus2 it would be fifty fifty who would go first. Once I made soul to a +3 and my soul always went first by 1 or three TU. My soul is even more bonus so the gap has grown. ---
**Author:** ![ILAGaLOT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ilagalot/32/19929_2.png) [@ILAGaLOT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ILAGaLOT)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/speed-variance-solved/4689/14 "2016-07-30T01:14:21Z")
> [@Tyrone\\\_Hill](#): > > For the most part your right. I’ll its not quite that drastic though. I’ll use my soylstealer and frostrider for example. My frost has a 55 speed and soul has 65 speed. I made frost a +9 but soul was a plus one. So my frost always went first by 3 seconds. Once soul was a plus2 it would be fifty fifty who would go first. Once I made soul to a +3 and my soul always went first by 1 or three TU. My soul is even more bonus so the gap has grown. like all theory’s it’s being tested but I can guarntee the bonus adds speed The random variable 0-3 I’m yet to fully understand as well but it seems on your part from the test you did it fits into my speed theory very well