# Sorry if this is irrelevant, but ecstatic from a PvP win! **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP\ **Created:** [May 26, 2014, 1:29pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823 "2014-05-26T13:29:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ValkyrieCain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/valkyriecain/32/870_2.png) [@ValkyrieCain](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ValkyrieCain)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 1:29pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/1 "2014-05-26T13:29:34Z")
Okay sooooo I just beat a team that has: Kami SS Minespider Stego Vegi And I have none of them! Fair BAs on both sides! And the game didn’t screw me up and said I was defeated when I actually won! I’m just really really high from the win and felt like sharing the positivity! 😃 Feel free to remove this post if it strays to far from the main thread 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Braydenr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/braydenr/32/259_2.png) [@Braydenr](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Braydenr)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 2:22pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/2 "2014-05-26T14:22:32Z")
Grats 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![r4pwnzL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac8455/32.png) [@r4pwnzL](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/r4pwnzL)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 2:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/3 "2014-05-26T14:33:45Z")
I like… it always feel good when u beat someone with a team which is “less” “rare” and “good”… ---
**Author:** ![ValkyrieCain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/valkyriecain/32/870_2.png) [@ValkyrieCain](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ValkyrieCain)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/4 "2014-05-26T14:44:46Z")
Thank youuuuuu guys! IKR, it just feels…liberating…especially during the wait for the update 😃 Thank youuuuuu guys! IKR, it just feels…liberating…especially during the wait for the update 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Janto001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/janto001/32/1022_2.png) [@Janto001](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Janto001)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 3:20pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/5 "2014-05-27T15:20:15Z")
Congrats. But getting beat when u have the superior arks is a downer, especially when you know you should’ve won. But that’s why we play the game. Nothing is settled cause you have a stacked team. ---
**Author:** ![kab\_kab](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kab_kab/32/3245_2.png) [@kab\_kab](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kab_kab)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/6 "2014-05-27T19:36:09Z")
Congrats Valkeryie ---
**Author:** ![kab\_kab](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kab_kab/32/3245_2.png) [@kab\_kab](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kab_kab)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/7 "2014-05-28T17:45:17Z")
I of all people can attest to the feeling seeing as I have no OMs ---
**Author:** ![ValkyrieCain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/valkyriecain/32/870_2.png) [@ValkyrieCain](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ValkyrieCain)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 3:23pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/8 "2014-05-29T15:23:28Z")
Liquid: I guess that’s one ‘advantage’ of having a mediocre team, the high that you get from beating a superior team is far better than the disappointment of being beaten by an inferior one. When one’s already at the top and have all the best arks, it’s not that much of an excitement to win is it? Like, the only thing that keeps me going in PvP is the 200 thousand more diamonds I need for a Vegi. Having said that, I would never refuse an SS 😃 I was just comforting myself for not having all those fabulous arks \>.\< @Kab_Kab yay thanks! I’ve got a few OM arks myself, but almost every team in masters league have them anyway soooo… ---
**Author:** ![Crystal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Crystal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Crystal)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/9 "2014-05-29T17:13:59Z")
Congrats! I think it’s funny when people who use Stego get upset that they lose (you know who you are), because in all reality, it’s a terrible ark. Many arks can easily 1HKO it or easily ruin its only point to be a stall-stun ark. It’s too fragile anymore and anyone using it is at a disadvantage unless they have it enter into the battle at a very lucky vantage point. ---
**Author:** ![kab\_kab](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kab_kab/32/3245_2.png) [@kab\_kab](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kab_kab)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/10 "2014-05-29T18:54:22Z")
Yeah I agree with Crystal That being said…Stegospike is still extremely annoying ---
**Author:** ![ValkyrieCain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/valkyriecain/32/870_2.png) [@ValkyrieCain](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ValkyrieCain)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 6:09am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/11 "2014-05-30T06:09:33Z")
Thanks Crystal! I love everyone who doesn’t like using stego 😃 and yeah Kami is much more difficult to kill but I get more satisfaction from killing a stego just because it’s annoying and how is permastun even a legit strategy?? Anyway. SS!!! Can’t wait! ---
**Author:** ![Crystal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Crystal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Crystal)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 10:20am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/12 "2014-05-30T10:20:56Z")
SS being much more common now should effectively end Stego. Scapegoat will be the death to it, because it won’t be able to stun all arks anymore. Hypothetically speaking, of course, but finally. ---
**Author:** ![jjchen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@jjchen1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/jjchen1)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 11:40am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/13 "2014-05-30T11:40:27Z")
> [@Crystal](#): > > SS being much more common now should effectively end Stego. Scapegoat will be the death to it, because it won’t be able to stun all arks anymore. > > Hypothetically speaking, of course, but finally. But now there will be a shadow chopper grem revival… Any team without a vortexor in the first three is either stunned or knocked back. ---
**Author:** ![Crystal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Crystal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Crystal)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 1:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/14 "2014-05-30T13:08:40Z")
Considering how easily that strategy was countered in the first place, I don’t see that happening. ---
**Author:** ![Ssteffen1116](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ssteffen1116/32/1711_2.png) [@Ssteffen1116](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Ssteffen1116)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/15 "2014-05-30T17:12:22Z")
It will make stun teams more effective and harder to beat… Need this update to nerf stego ASAP ---
**Author:** ![Crystal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Crystal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Crystal)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/16 "2014-05-30T17:32:51Z")
In order to use a stun team, you need a haster, Stego, and the hitter. If you replace any of those with SS, the strategy fails. ---
**Author:** ![Ssteffen1116](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ssteffen1116/32/1711_2.png) [@Ssteffen1116](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Ssteffen1116)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/17 "2014-05-30T18:31:04Z")
It’s not about the three of them it’s about being able to scapegoat stun skin arks if vortexer is dead to start the stun train… ---
**Author:** ![Crystal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Crystal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Crystal)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 7:12pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/18 "2014-05-30T19:12:50Z")
However, then you sacrifice any arks that can do a decent amount of damage for something you just want dead, which doesn’t guarantee that you’re going to perform any better simply because you get an extra turn with 2-3 arks before your opponent goes again (unless you sacrifice multiple arks for stunning, which in that case, if you get scrambled, gg you lose). ---
**Author:** ![kab\_kab](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kab_kab/32/3245_2.png) [@kab\_kab](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kab_kab)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/19 "2014-05-30T19:20:40Z")
hmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![jjchen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@jjchen1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/jjchen1)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823/20 "2014-05-30T19:24:54Z")
Actually there was no counter. As could scapegoat grem, so your grem couldn’t knock it back, then kill gremknight, scapegoat chopper. Literally no counter until vortex came out. Your first three had to either be stunned or knocked back or scrambled. [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/sorry-if-this-is-irrelevant-but-ecstatic-from-a-pvp-win/2823.md?page=2)