# Showdown is unfair **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [June 28, 2018, 9:22am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/showdown-is-unfair/13022 "2018-06-28T09:22:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Moshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/moshu/32/9229_2.png) [@Moshu](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Moshu)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/showdown-is-unfair/13022/42 "2018-07-01T23:33:49Z")
As far as i can tell, on trainer floors, there are 2 white and 1 red door. go through white for better chances at not fighting a trainer. no warning means no trainer to fight. Also, i used gyumorai counter strike on that lightning toxic killer, protector killer monster ( i forget what is called, fought on floor 9). since i read from other post counter strike might be more powerful that overconfident ( u would expect it would be ) and it didnt kill it. so i guess its safe to say that this monster is no good against buff monsters 😭 guess ill replace him with wraitengine for this event. ---
**Author:** ![Boiler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/boiler/32/19099_2.png) [@Boiler](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Boiler)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/showdown-is-unfair/13022/43 "2018-07-02T01:48:45Z")
Ya man bloodfury, blood thirst, and death sentence are the only things that work in high levels of PvE. Blood crave wont even cut it. Even blood thirst with Warca will take 5 kills to charge enough to kill electric types starting at level 300. Gyo and other confident strikers are fantastic for PvP. But leave PvE to the bloodmoves, bombs, and death revenge. ---
**Author:** ![Woodward](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/woodward/32/28617_2.png) [@Woodward](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Woodward)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 7:57am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/showdown-is-unfair/13022/44 "2018-07-02T07:57:50Z")
This is the sad truth but thirst is way easier than fury given that 2 kill thirst = 4 kill fury (or so I found in balancion) ---
**Author:** ![Rctuga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/rctuga/32/56460_2.png) [@Rctuga](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Rctuga)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 9:18am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/showdown-is-unfair/13022/45 "2018-07-02T09:18:48Z")
Sneack atack works pretty good on ST Tenebris army can destroy full AI teams easely ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 11:33am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/showdown-is-unfair/13022/46 "2018-07-02T11:33:03Z")
Loads of moves like survivor, desperate, retribution, etc become two-shots against buff monsters but they’re still very good to use. Overconfident strike and counter strike fit into this category. Gyomurai has a brilliant slayerbane all too which probably does an easy one-shot on buffed monsters if their team has 2+ kills. ---
**Author:** ![Woodward](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/woodward/32/28617_2.png) [@Woodward](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Woodward)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/showdown-is-unfair/13022/47 "2018-07-02T15:36:07Z")
Depends on the buff level ---
**Author:** ![Boiler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/boiler/32/19099_2.png) [@Boiler](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Boiler)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/showdown-is-unfair/13022/48 "2018-07-02T18:39:10Z")
I got to use Stratus in Island challenge once. It was a champ until level 130. Then dead weight. Blood moves are the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/showdown-is-unfair/13022/49 "2018-07-02T19:03:37Z")
Sleep is the way to go rather. ---
**Author:** ![TNB\_iSegal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tnb_isegal/32/6243_2.png) [@TNB\_iSegal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNB_iSegal)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/showdown-is-unfair/13022/50 "2018-07-02T21:53:08Z")
Sleep, bombs, and death sentences 💪 [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/showdown-is-unfair/13022.md?page=2)