# Selene **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [July 26, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751 "2024-07-26T03:17:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Exu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/exu/32/62314_2.png) [@Exu](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Exu)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 10:57am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/115 "2024-07-30T10:57:58Z")
This is an absolute joke compared to Torazou for example. He needs 5 kills to activate the 30 Tu “in the zone” which doesn’t even 1 shot all monsters. Now there’s simply no way to justify the 5 kill requirement on that skill. ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/116 "2024-07-30T12:29:49Z")
> [@Coltraz](#): > > Everyone should agree that 17tu insta kill moves should not exist You can’t keep that up because stealthy accelerate is 42TU and Selene doesn’t have camouflage. I think it’s better to do elem accelerate on Selene ---
**Author:** ![Cesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cesar/32/76219_2.png) [@Cesar](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cesar)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 12:35pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/117 "2024-07-30T12:35:42Z")
@Dev_VKC It’s time for that to change. Torazu needs new conditions to activate in the area. It’s just unusable ---
**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 12:44pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/118 "2024-07-30T12:44:35Z")
In this setup stealthy accelerate was 33tu but that does not even matter that much. If they want to keep her TU then it needs to be immune to acceleration to avoid stuff like this. ---
**Author:** ![Dane1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dane1/32/47118_2.png) [@Dane1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Dane1)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/119 "2024-07-30T14:05:39Z")
I tried that same tactic yesterday. Everybody ran from it lol ---
**Author:** ![Dane1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dane1/32/47118_2.png) [@Dane1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Dane1)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/120 "2024-07-30T14:08:53Z")
You get 27tu with regular accelerate team ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/121 "2024-07-30T15:07:40Z")
The method of acceleration is irrelevant. Coltraz is right and fair play to him for calling out something he could abuse. Selene shouldn’t be accelerated ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 9:41pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/122 "2024-07-30T21:41:53Z")
I dont think acceleration is a problem nor the defense boost, 80% of the times she would not have that boost as you or opponent can have a light monster Just doing the suggested thing below should be fine, - i would increase the seconds to 50 tu and new moon will allow you to do gibbus directly and full moon can be triggered by crescent. 150 tu for the full circle and nyx can counter her making the tu 300 seconds, also the green whale can counter her ---
**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/123 "2024-07-30T21:44:40Z")
> [@Mr.X](#): > > 80% of the times she would not have that boost I am always impressed when you are taking stats like those out of your ■■■ 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/124 "2024-07-30T21:48:27Z")
> [@Mr.X](#): > > new moon will allow you to do gibbus directly and full moon can be triggered by crescent > [@Mr.X](#): > > 150 tu for the full circle Then she loses the cycle. She is fun only because there is a closed cycle and order or skills. ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/125 "2024-07-30T22:03:55Z")
I say take her moves down to 5 TU ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/126 "2024-07-30T22:10:37Z")
> [@Coltraz](#): > > I am always impressed when you are taking stats like those out of your ■■■ 🤣 Am doing that from my gaming experience. > [@Coltraz](#): > > Then she loses the cycle. She is fun only because there is a closed cycle and order or skills. The entire point is to balance her out, increasing the tu is the only way i see at the moment Alternatively you could change sleep immunity to insomnia but that would not drop her power level by much all it would do is stop OoO and kill samurai guy again. The defense boost is nice but realistically no one is playing her for the defense boost, you would not weaken your team just for that boost. So it brings us back to the skill tu. Changing jt to 50 tu is sensible but without the suggested change her circle would be 200tu which is quite alot coming from 136 and with nyx around it would be 400 compared to 272 The most sensible thing to do is increase the tu and shorten the circle ---
**Author:** ![SmileyGOW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/smileygow/32/62085_2.png) [@SmileyGOW](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/SmileyGOW)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/127 "2024-07-31T00:33:46Z")
The lunar cycle is well designed, that is what the monster consists of, each movement triggers the next, increasing TU to 50 I think is a lot, with 42 TU it would be more balanced ---
**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/128 "2024-07-31T00:45:37Z")
> [@SmileyGOW](#): > > increasing TU to 50 I think is a lot Her base skills are now 40tu. They should either pump it to 50 and awakened would be 42tu or keep it as it is but completely block accelerating her. This is a similar case to when Nyx was released and you could very easily play her with Iris or ShieldDragon and negate Fermata on your side while accelerating your monsters even more. Look, I made it back to Nyx 🕶🕶 ---
**Author:** ![SmileyGOW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/smileygow/32/62085_2.png) [@SmileyGOW](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/SmileyGOW)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 12:55am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/129 "2024-07-31T00:55:15Z")
So, you want Nyx to remain omnipotent? They do well to release low TU monsters that can counter her, now, 32 TU is excessively low so she considers 42 to be the perfect amount for her. ---
**Author:** ![SmileyGOW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/smileygow/32/62085_2.png) [@SmileyGOW](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/SmileyGOW)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/130 "2024-07-31T00:59:23Z")
I completely agree with you, that should be the approach. ---
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 4:47am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/131 "2024-07-31T04:47:37Z")
You do realize that nyx users can just run selene in the midgame right? lol ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/132 "2024-07-31T13:30:49Z")
For a TU change I would want 40 → 70 → 70 → 40 for the cycle of moves. This better matches the lunar cycle which is 3-4 days and 7-8 days for each of these stages. Also, the first move deals tiny damage and increasing the TU on that slows the first damaging action Selene can take so I think that probably should stay at 40TU. ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/133 "2024-07-31T20:38:16Z")
> [@Killerdog](#): > > This better matches the lunar cycle which is 3-4 days and 7-8 days for each of these stages. Neeeerd! ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/134 "2024-07-31T23:46:54Z")
Yeah, yeah. Says the guy who pointed out everyone on the forum liked Cyclophina’s moveset except me 😛 Besides, this was just a Google that happily aligned with what I wanted to do to the moveset TU anyway. [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751.md?page=5) [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751.md?page=7)