# Selene **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [July 26, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751 "2024-07-26T03:17:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/62 "2024-07-27T10:07:02Z")
Too bad you can’t run him in the 5th spot like rninedragon 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 10:08am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/63 "2024-07-27T10:08:17Z")
It’s not even guaranteed to one-shot mythics if you have 3 SEs. That second line-up looks bad. The first line-up definitely won’t do a reliable one-shot but it’s a fine FL. Anyway, my point isn’t that it’s not strong, it’s that you have to build around it to get that payoff. You spoke it like there was no condition at all. Buffs locked behind a team building restriction are usually fine and balanced plus they bring diversity to the game because you build your team differently to how other teams are built. So I see Zephyramus and other monsters like it as a positive for the game and very different to standalone powerful monsters. ---
**Author:** ![IBERIAN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/iberian/32/61021_2.png) [@IBERIAN](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/IBERIAN)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 10:21am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/64 "2024-07-27T10:21:57Z")
I remember that Sivanna with hp boost in my fl was killed by Zephiramus with one blow with a vacuum power cut ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 10:41am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/65 "2024-07-27T10:41:41Z")
The newest form is ED 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 10:42am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/66 "2024-07-27T10:42:51Z")
> [@Killerdog](#): > > That second line-up looks bad. The guy running it was in high tops in ranked, but I guess you love this idea of oneshotting double targets with no skill requirements. If they change his double targets skills into “Swift Double Slash” then I will stop whining about it. For now we have a Dream Ender monster that sweeps two targets with 0 sleep skills on them. ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/67 "2024-07-27T10:48:49Z")
Was thinking the same. There’s more to come too ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 11:09am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/68 "2024-07-27T11:09:11Z")
> [@IBERIAN](#): > > I remember that Sivanna with hp boost in my fl was killed by Zephiramus with one blow with a vacuum power cut Yeah the power slash move is a very easy one-shot, that’s what it’s supposed to be with the attack boost. The other attacks do less damage. > [@Coltraz](#): > > If they change his double targets skills into “Swift Double Slash” then I will stop whining about it. > > For now we have a Dream Ender monster that sweeps two targets with 0 sleep skills on them. That’s what I thought. It’s purely emotional response from people where they “feel like it shouldn’t one-shot” because of the move it is, rather than looking at it from the perspective of balance. We’ve seen it time and time again like with people moaning about Apollonis’ double counter slash but I think everyone would agree that’s a monster that isn’t overpowered (most still call it underpowered). Don’t get me wrong, I hear all the complaints about stats boosts and I agree I wish it wasn’t such a common design. However, I do think it’s just the newest in the long line of game design developments that players moan about for 1-2 years then all accept and love. We had that with stun counter/converter, piercing, raw and now the two latest ones are stat buffs and “unable to target”. ---
**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 11:16am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/69 "2024-07-27T11:16:03Z")
Crazy idea. Maybe skills used on wrong targets should not deal critical damage, let alone oneshot anything. Let’s give him ultranowa (all) and let it sweep 4 monsters at the first turn and at his speed. Zephyramus has double counterslash and void powerslash but those are not even necessary on him if you can sweep double targets using faster Dream Ender. Just give him one active move if that’s all it needs since you can target anything. ---
**Author:** ![Myst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/myst/32/80869_2.png) [@Myst](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Myst)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 11:52am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/70 "2024-07-27T11:52:37Z")
Exactly. This atk/def boost should be 50% or 100% at max. But now every myth is given huge boost and that’s running game. Also new ed leg is strong and kd will say he have restriction that it can only be used with eds 😂from his logic . Also why they nerfed lancerent cause it can only be used in eg from kds point of view. Any thing that is wrong doing in any setup is broken but some people hesitate to take their words back. ---
**Author:** ![BVN\_03](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/bvn_03/32/49605_2.png) [@BVN\_03](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/BVN_03)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 1:51pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/71 "2024-07-27T13:51:04Z")
> [@Coltraz](#): > > Let’s give him ultranowa (all) and let it sweep 4 monsters at the first turn and at his speed. Slash all 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Yakuza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@Yakuza](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Yakuza)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/73 "2024-07-27T14:54:41Z")
I agree that goat needs a change. It shouldn’t double kill 2 monsters if the skill not even meet. ---
**Author:** ![IronFist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ironfist/32/49405_2.png) [@IronFist](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/IronFist)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/74 "2024-07-27T16:24:41Z")
We lost the thread and we deviated to Zaphiramus. Unfortunately, those who complain are players who abuse Nyx and have slow teams and the goat plays basketball with them. Do something else and you will see how quickly you get rid of the goat. ---
**Author:** ![Dane1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dane1/32/47118_2.png) [@Dane1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Dane1)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/75 "2024-07-27T19:00:51Z")
Just wondering. Does anyone care about the defense boost of this monster? ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/76 "2024-07-27T19:16:52Z")
@Dev_VKC Celine Dion performed at the opening ceremony of the Olympics. Coincidence? 👀 ---
**Author:** ![TGDpoison](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tgdpoison/32/63562_2.png) [@TGDpoison](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TGDpoison)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/77 "2024-07-27T19:23:44Z")
Literalmente ---
**Author:** ![Rctuga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/rctuga/32/56460_2.png) [@Rctuga](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Rctuga)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/78 "2024-07-27T21:36:29Z")
🧐 hum where are you from? Tuga? Just curious ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/79 "2024-07-28T02:15:53Z")
![1000006724](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/4/6/4632aeed3aaab0c2072e0d346f31cd93a6ab70a0.jpeg) My experience playing Selene in PvP so far. Only three people actually wanted to fight and one of them it’s because they could kill her right at the start ---
**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 8:40am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/80 "2024-07-28T08:40:21Z")
WoW! Streak of 8. Never seen before. Great stuff! ---
**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/90 "2024-07-28T09:34:40Z")
As for Selene, I am not surprised they gave her sleep immunity and that fast of a sweeping. They clearly want to sell her and now it will be hard to nerf her after so many people got her. VKC recently said that they don’t want every mythic to become S tier but clearly all the waifus feel like that while non-humanoid myths getting released are mediocre to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![Yakuza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@Yakuza](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Yakuza)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 10:50am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751/92 "2024-07-28T10:50:15Z")
Killing the goat is no problem. It’s just a bs mechanic. Imagine if a poison eater skill double kill two monsters and neither of them was poison. That wouldn’t be cool right? They need to either change the name of the skill so it makes sense or make the skill does what it said. Critical damage to Sleep monsters [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751.md?page=3) [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/selene/52751.md?page=5)