# PVP matchmaking and rating issues **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [August 21, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742 "2021-08-21T18:28:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DMG\_Memories](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_memories/32/38289_2.png) [@DMG\_Memories](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Memories)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/1 "2021-08-21T18:28:31Z")
My IGN is DMG Memories, my hero rank is 81. I have been facing issues while playing PVP. I am being paired with likes of ONE Killer Dog and ONE Duck. I feel my collection is not up to the mark nor is my level to face such pro players. Also this isn’t just my only issue. Moreover, when I win I get 500 as my win ratings and when I lose 1000 ratings get deducted from the total. How am I even supposed to play? I would like you to look in to the same and let me know why is it just happening to me. Is this even fair? Is there any explanation on how the matching system works? Awaiting your response. P.S. I am attaching my match lists as a proof. @Dev_VKC ![Screenshot_20210821-132335_Neo Monsters](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/3/1/3126cde8d84ff0650858b3cefbc9ed46470be34b.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20210821-053903_Neo Monsters](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/e/9/e9242f96a23bc6d7f50d369d7035c620b516ee5e.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20210820-192656_Neo Monsters](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/5/f/5f142309637111e2a48e45c5cd7e94902d698250.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20210821-132333_Neo Monsters](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/0/8/0833e49ad5bec66f4625aa06388773e1be56776e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/2 "2021-08-21T18:55:43Z")
> [@DMG\_Memories](#): > > Moreover, when I win I get 500 as my win ratings and when I lose 1000 ratings get deducted from the total That looks quite odd. It’s probably a bug since you should be gaining ~1000 rating from wins and losing ~1000 from losses. > [@DMG\_Memories](#): > > I am being paired with likes of ONE Killer Dog and ONE Duck. I feel my collection is not up to the mark nor is my level to face such pro players. I don’t think this is much of an issue since winning 3/4s of your matches would place you in the top bracket where you’d face some of the top players. Also GG your team was tough to beat if I remember correctly ---
**Author:** ![K1NG\_Deimos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/k1ng_deimos/32/36080_2.png) [@K1NG\_Deimos](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/K1NG_Deimos)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/4 "2021-08-21T19:02:46Z")
I agree, I think that everything would have to be the same again, that there was equality between low and high ranks, which gave the same rating, however, they only care about high ranks, that is, from 100 upwards, that They give them the same rating, the pairings do not matter to me since we should fight for something that is ours, please, go back to being like before ---
**Author:** ![ZenLostGamePlay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zenlostgameplay/32/41092_2.png) [@ZenLostGamePlay](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ZenLostGamePlay)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/5 "2021-08-21T19:46:16Z")
It’s like the Mobile Legends Game where when someone/yourself has high points and is united by someone with low points you will get a very small +5 and when a player with low points beats a player with high points then this player with low points will get +15 or maybe vice versa ---
**Author:** ![TOG\_Awadecoco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tog_awadecoco/32/71606_2.png) [@TOG\_Awadecoco](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TOG_Awadecoco)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/6 "2021-08-21T21:38:36Z")
> [@NMEduck](#): > > Eso parece bastante extraño. Probablemente sea un error, ya que debería obtener una calificación de ~ 1000 por victorias y perder ~ 1000 por pérdidas. I have the same problem, I cannot advance, in fact, I lose points, they give me 500 but they take away 1000, you will see in the next BattleLog, add and subtract. How am I supposed to move on like this? ![20210821_173452](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/2/b/2ba3706e68421bb7508d3ae07dab2e1d3bab644b.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20210821-013112_Neo Monsters](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/2/f/2fbfc9b538c593779f1d1f61421ffd70014e3354.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20210820-233852_Neo Monsters](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/4/6/46f4f48de9f78eaeaac29b6a3f24cc110eef7a7a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Chrono](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/chrono/32/38183_2.png) [@Chrono](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Chrono)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/7 "2021-08-21T23:11:02Z")
Same for me. I played 10 games yesterday and got 8 wins 2 loses. I only gained 500 per win and 1000 per loss. Once I got paired with a top player named long and got deducted 1000 points flat. Which makes me think that Becuase of 2 loses my 4 wins became worthless. ![Screenshot_20210821-181422](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/1/a/1a4c3cf7531169d94f6bd4a6dc5c3c6936bb85e9.jpeg) I lost to a top player here so this was a guarantee loss. ![Screenshot_20210821-181248](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/7/0/702b298e832a161f98a7d70dc329194ed0fbcd61.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Laxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/laxus/32/44000_2.png) [@Laxus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Laxus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 11:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/8 "2021-08-21T23:15:27Z")
i never met this .maybe is your herorank problem ---
**Author:** ![K1NG\_Deimos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/k1ng_deimos/32/36080_2.png) [@K1NG\_Deimos](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/K1NG_Deimos)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/9 "2021-08-22T00:12:22Z")
Supposing that was why, why only those who are rank 100 and above are the beneficiaries in gaining 1000 points and not those of low rank? ---
**Author:** ![Dev\_VKC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dev_vkc/32/55057_2.png) [@Dev\_VKC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Dev_VKC)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/10 "2021-08-22T00:22:52Z")
> [@DMG\_Memories](#): > > my hero rank is 81 This is the reason. Your hero rank is not high enough to put you in pro tier forever. There are 3 tiers in pvp, beginner, mid and pro. Top players in beginner tier will start to face mid players while top players in mid league will start to face pro players which is your case. This is to prevent low tiers players get the same rank as pro tiers players without having to face the same strength of opponents. Please raise your hero rank at least 100. ---
**Author:** ![Herr\_Loki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/herr_loki/32/72673_2.png) [@Herr\_Loki](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Herr_Loki)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/11 "2021-08-22T00:39:23Z")
I am Rank 102 And top 100 and I can assure you that I have come out in this ranking -10 tops 50 -4-4 tops 25 -2-3 tops 10 1-Top 1 I have not seen a single top 100 in the ranking, currently I have 7000 rating and usually I always reach the top 100 with this account (Secondary) But in this ranking I have been matched with all the tops So what is this? I can assure you that my big account has easier opponents than my little one, they should do something to make it more fair ---
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 12:54am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/12 "2021-08-22T00:54:15Z")
Wait what I thought you were using Mr. X’s account? ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Memories](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_memories/32/38289_2.png) [@DMG\_Memories](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Memories)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/13 "2021-08-22T01:36:37Z")
If I remember correctly, I saw a lot of reinforcements, I just killed you and got to 2 monsters behind Focalforce😂 ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Memories](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_memories/32/38289_2.png) [@DMG\_Memories](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Memories)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/14 "2021-08-22T01:40:40Z")
What bothers me the most is that they give me 500 and they take away 1000, I am already rank 81 they should give me 1000 and take away 1000, or they give me 500 and they take away 500 but they should already give me 1000 ---
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 1:45am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/15 "2021-08-22T01:45:18Z")
Oh nvm then lmao ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Memories](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_memories/32/38289_2.png) [@DMG\_Memories](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Memories)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/16 "2021-08-22T01:48:02Z")
Well I’ll be honest with you from time to time tops come out but not always, but what bothers me the most is the vain work I do, I mean I win a PvP and they give me 500 I lose and they take away 1000, I mean I lose too much, and for to return I must win 2 battles and 3 in a row to go down, they must give me 1000 and remove 1000, and the top I adapt, I have to fight for what I want, they give me 1000 so that later when they take 1000 from me it will be fairer @Dev_VKC ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Memories](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_memories/32/38289_2.png) [@DMG\_Memories](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Memories)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/17 "2021-08-22T01:49:06Z")
no matter good fight I hope I can fight again lol😂 ---
**Author:** ![Laxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/laxus/32/44000_2.png) [@Laxus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Laxus)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/18 "2021-08-22T01:52:28Z")
正在使用发音 I think this is part of fairness, which may not be perfect ---
**Author:** ![TNCxXchaosxXf2p](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncxxchaosxxf2p/32/34687_2.png) [@TNCxXchaosxXf2p](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCxXchaosxXf2p)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/19 "2021-08-22T02:07:35Z")
is the secondary account ---
**Author:** ![Herr\_Loki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/herr_loki/32/72673_2.png) [@Herr\_Loki](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Herr_Loki)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/20 "2021-08-22T02:13:42Z")
And I use it, I’m at # 1 actually, but I said it was my second account ---
**Author:** ![DMG\_Memories](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_memories/32/38289_2.png) [@DMG\_Memories](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_Memories)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 2:30am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742/22 "2021-08-22T02:30:37Z")
now I am with my secondary account of rank 50 where I gain 300 to 400 rating and exactly at this moment they take 1000 away from me , explain this @Dev_VKC 😐 [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-matchmaking-and-rating-issues/34742.md?page=2)