# 👉 PvP 66 Special Rule Pie Chart 🥧 **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [April 9, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258 "2024-04-09T01:27:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![INA-Archer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ina-archer/32/37741_2.png) [@INA-Archer](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/INA-Archer)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/21 "2024-04-09T12:51:38Z")
> [@EMI\_Eklypz](#): > > i don’t see them being as much of an issue as they used to be U should play more pvp I think. I get your point for want prismaryx buff, but bring back lsba is worse scenario. Imagine lsba get buffed, how strong link water with gio get buffed. Lose 1 and get 4 kill in first turn. nahh big no ---
**Author:** ![SHIKAOTOKO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/shikaotoko/32/34145_2.png) [@SHIKAOTOKO](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/SHIKAOTOKO)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/22 "2024-04-09T12:56:38Z")
I think the reason there are so few Holy is because there are so many Dark. Especially when there are element restrictions, many users use Novadrake and Demontoad. I think this is because people who don’t want to lose to a simple AOE won’t choose Holy because it’s difficult to counter this with Holy except for some people who have a lot of monsters. ---
**Author:** ![Tanbeer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tanbeer/32/51776_2.png) [@Tanbeer](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tanbeer)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/23 "2024-04-09T12:56:52Z")
> [@EMI\_Eklypz](#): > > holy is non synergistic Yes but they have the best support monsters in-game, not everything should be playable as a link. Earth needs some more love that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 1:00pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/24 "2024-04-09T13:00:30Z")
> [@SHIKAOTOKO](#): > > many users use Novadrake and Demontoad. I think this is because people who don’t want to lose to a simple AOE won’t choose Holy because it’s difficult to counter this with Holy This! ---
**Author:** ![kabylian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kabylian/32/49574_2.png) [@kabylian](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kabylian)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/25 "2024-04-09T13:06:36Z")
The solution is simple I suggested this to devs many times , Make demontoid speed 36% and we will see more holy more diversity ---
**Author:** ![INA-Archer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ina-archer/32/37741_2.png) [@INA-Archer](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/INA-Archer)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 1:07pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/26 "2024-04-09T13:07:39Z")
Link holy get hard countered by common dark enrage. Link fire get hard countered by flame Eater (3 Monster have this skill. And 2 of them is water lmao). Thats why those 2 kinda weak compare to other element Link water is strongest that time. Only weak againts token , and they also have 2 roaring entrance+ elem masacre 😆. ---
**Author:** ![kabylian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kabylian/32/49574_2.png) [@kabylian](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kabylian)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 1:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/27 "2024-04-09T13:13:39Z")
You know what the more hilarious , from all the vd they gave sashimi slicer to the water one ! So link water who has mostly fish type , won’t have a counter , and you have to use this guy to counter link water but wait they use unicera and glaci … They could give sashimi slicer to storm one like they do for other monsters like the new bug but I really can’t understand their choice here ![Screenshot_2024-04-09-14-09-56-51_1bf244a8f99430127e675c0d635b1865](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/9/3/93f6a6e4289cdf2d634334a856963fd652556736.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 1:22pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/28 "2024-04-09T13:22:22Z")
> [@INA-Archer](#): > > U should play more pvp I think. fair. XD ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/29 "2024-04-09T13:24:59Z")
don’t get me wrong i do enjoy playing holy and i am probably one of the best at using it but i feel like holy in general terms has a bunch of star performers and not many team players. ---
**Author:** ![Myst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/myst/32/80869_2.png) [@Myst](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Myst)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/30 "2024-04-09T16:15:02Z")
Bruh link water is at dying state. It is not as powerful as before. Dark is the strongest with Carmella,soral and horse. Tbh all link gets hard countered by tokens which are everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Myst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/myst/32/80869_2.png) [@Myst](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Myst)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/31 "2024-04-09T16:15:37Z")
You forgot the best holy one! My fav mons. ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/32 "2024-04-09T16:21:46Z")
i didn’t include the strongest ones who actually work well already like angelion, heavenswyrm, shikabloom and excalibur. ---
**Author:** ![Myst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/myst/32/80869_2.png) [@Myst](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Myst)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/33 "2024-04-09T16:38:39Z")
I mean valzerian! Cool design but weak movesets. ---
**Author:** ![Tanbeer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tanbeer/32/51776_2.png) [@Tanbeer](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tanbeer)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/34 "2024-04-09T16:55:05Z")
Stop defending your teams. ---
**Author:** ![INA-Archer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ina-archer/32/37741_2.png) [@INA-Archer](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/INA-Archer)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/35 "2024-04-09T17:00:52Z")
Whats popular token that time ? Motordragon doesn’t have backbiter in thunder elem. Rhinoel is solo monster, Tinkerclause is light monster its also barely used. only jackolene Now compare with link water in Special rule. It have aoi , and leira to destroy any link elem via roaring entrance (elements masacre) If u try to comeback that time they have Tricertalon (before they nerf it) I am running link water long time ago, when I am still in dmg, its super agresif. That time ,Link water generally weak againts stun and token. That’s why they create sturgeomidas . And now they nerf stun . Drakozord-z is counter for link water. But link water have unicera for coverage That’s the reason why link water is so popular bcoz they are strong, and fast. Link dark popular bcoz enrage ,and link dark have most agresif sweeper in FL. Link thunder bcoz xyz and prixis ,they are popular bcoz speed. Now give me example,why link water weak? Compare to other element? ---
**Author:** ![CQ4\_SHEROX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cq4_sherox/32/59512_2.png) [@CQ4\_SHEROX](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/CQ4_SHEROX)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/36 "2024-04-09T17:02:04Z")
Link water is defently the easiest link to play . Many sweepers , link, give turns , absorbers , protectors , stealth etc . U can play link water without mitics to get high in ranked . For link shadow u use awakene mitics to play it broken . I hope light will get a few fast sweepers which ignore HG and shield ---
**Author:** ![Cesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cesar/32/76219_2.png) [@Cesar](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cesar)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/37 "2024-04-09T18:43:59Z")
What about PvE? I have the impression that people who ask for nerfs have a narrow view of things. Nova aoe is also a PvE tactic, nerf demontoad is not the solution. ---
**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/38 "2024-04-09T18:49:47Z")
> [@CQ4\_SHEROX](#): > > I hope light will get a few fast sweepers which ignore HG and shield Get yourself a Excaliburdragon. ---
**Author:** ![CQ4\_SHEROX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cq4_sherox/32/59512_2.png) [@CQ4\_SHEROX](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/CQ4_SHEROX)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/39 "2024-04-09T20:57:15Z")
Not funny . I own him 🥱 ---
**Author:** ![DRACARYS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dracarys/32/34809_2.png) [@DRACARYS](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DRACARYS)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258/40 "2024-04-10T12:00:01Z")
Fire used to be as popular as water link before Magmarinus ultra-nerf. Incredible what a single monster represents. The keys to fire link were Infernicorn, Novem and Magma. You took one away and fire link went directly to a minimum use. No matter how many fire mythics are there. [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-66-special-rule-pie-chart/50258.md?page=3)