# No chance in Pvp **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters Live Events\ **Created:** [September 7, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022 "2019-09-07T15:05:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Keoz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/keoz/32/18044_2.png) [@Keoz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Keoz)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/1 "2019-09-07T15:05:05Z")
I don’t know if this came up once but when I searched for it in the forum I didn’t really find something, if you reach a certain ranking in Pvp you’ll get in a higher tier in the next event if I understood correctly. And for some people who get into a higher tier it’s super hard to even win three games, I had to fight against people who had five 9+ legends in their team and I got destroyed without having the smallest chance to do anything, my winrate lives in the basement now, so what can I do? I want the all the stuff you can get, especially the new monster, but if it goes on like this it’s impossible to do anything. O gosh, I sound really stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/2 "2019-09-07T15:23:57Z")
Could you show your win/loss log so we can determine which bracket your playing in. Also each bracket requires you to step up your game play in the top bracket each monster in your team must have a role and must be put in the right position a small mistake like mis-positioning could cost you the game or a ingame mistake could cost you the game aswell. I recommend posting your team and list of monsters maybe someone will help build a team. ---
**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/3 "2019-09-07T16:09:50Z")
Ah it’s okey. You lose 10 or more then go back to easier opponents. I got 120 wins last pvp this way. I even got depressed in the beginning then I accepted the fact that you can’t win every match. ---
**Author:** ![eNjiin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/enjiin/32/17791_2.png) [@eNjiin](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/eNjiin)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/4 "2019-09-07T16:32:46Z")
I think once you are in a higher bracket you can’t go back. That was stated somewhere already. So losing on purpose will not put you lower in a lower bracket. Fyi ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/5 "2019-09-07T16:40:17Z")
> [@NoelLemon2](#): > > I accepted the fact that you can’t win every match. True i tried that and each time i ended up losing somewhere either to disconnects or incredible rng on my opponent side or for those who sold there soul to just to make the perfect counter in the hopes they face me. my highest winstreak was 120+ during one pvp. Later on i did +40 and now am probably sitting at +40 but i really dont rember when i have lost. You just cant expect to win every game. ![Screenshot_20190907-194024_Neo%20Monsters](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/e/9/e9775f1e5214523fb708e1c41b30b7b5c308d3ac.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/6 "2019-09-07T16:41:00Z")
I didn’t say on purpose but that is not true. I was top 52 and I fought against @LemonSqueezy and @squinty1880 and so many other top players who are not in this forum then went back again. ---
**Author:** ![eNjiin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/enjiin/32/17791_2.png) [@eNjiin](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/eNjiin)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/7 "2019-09-07T18:06:55Z")
OK Mr. Clever. You forced me to look for Dev VKC post and here we go. You can go only higher. Is it enough to say you are wrong? > [@PvP MMR for 1st and 2nd half](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/pvp-mmr-for-1st-and-2nd-half/15999/14): > > There are hidden tiers where players can only go up. Imagine there are 6 leagues, rookie, advanced, elite, expert, master and champion. Players in the rookie league only fight other rookies when PvP starts. Good players advance to the next league. Which means, if you were original master league player and have advanced to champion league, by losing battles on purpose, you can only go down to your placed league (master league). There are also hidden ratings determining who you will match withi… I would like to ask what lead you to your assumption that you went back. Just curious ---
**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/8 "2019-09-07T19:19:58Z")
I will take a picture of the people who I face alot. lol maybe then you stop believing everything these devs say lmao ---
**Author:** ![ItsSherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/9 "2019-09-07T19:27:31Z")
What @eNjiin says is true. However its always a question of availability of the players of your PvP tier. I could name you a time slot in which it is much easier to become top 50 than when you are playing during other time slots. Also the number of players in a tier is very high I believe. So not facing your usual opponents doesnt mean your dropped down a tier. It can have several other reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/10 "2019-09-07T19:29:29Z")
What you actually saying is true. I have been rank 1 for god knows how long and ive vs some players that just started the game and have unevolved legendaries. Ive posted a screenshot somewhere in the forums but am not bothered to find it. ---
**Author:** ![ItsSherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/11 "2019-09-07T19:30:58Z")
Thats true aswell. I remember your screenshot. But as I said, it could also have been caused by a wide variety of other reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/12 "2019-09-07T19:39:33Z")
The only reason i could think of is neo monsters wanted to humiliate that guy so badly. Because the timing occurred during the start of pvp where everyone was searching. ---
**Author:** ![ItsSherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/13 "2019-09-07T19:42:37Z")
was it during ranked? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/14 "2019-09-07T19:50:09Z")
It was unranked i think I think it was right after my +120 winstreak. When i was doing the +40 screenshot I could be wrong i really cant remember. edit i found it i was right it was right after my 120+ winstreak pvp. > [@I just got slaughtered by one of the coolest teams I've come across. Care to share some of your PvP stories? (Part 1)](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-just-got-slaughtered-by-one-of-the-coolest-teams-ive-come-across-care-to-share-some-of-your-pvp-stories-part-1/14950/2283): > > What kind of algorithm would put this guy vs me. > > ![Screenshot_20190701-102129_Neo Monsters.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/d/6/d6f4f5da8edae610cc88009303f3b67b4ee8982f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ItsSherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/15 "2019-09-07T20:09:12Z")
Well, I guess the system isnt flawless 😂 ---
**Author:** ![eNjiin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/enjiin/32/17791_2.png) [@eNjiin](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/eNjiin)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/16 "2019-09-07T20:52:18Z")
Maybe there is something like a placement ranking system while starting with pvp. Means you will face different enemies from different brackets to estimate your placement like in many other games. This would explain it or if you have queued for more than 2-3 times with several time outs you might as well get any other random enemy outside your bracket. But it’s definitely not based on your winning or losing ratio ---
**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/17 "2019-09-07T21:37:26Z")
None of these freaking matters. The point is, keoz, it is okey. You will get your rewards and you will get the legendaries you want and also pot as many legendaries you want. Losing a couple of matches is okey, you will start winning again. Also note this, do not take unranked seriously too much. People usually play random teams to test them that somehow is strong against your team but when ranked hits, you will start winning again if you were doing okey in ranked the last pvp. @ItsSherlock @eNjiin this is a warning. Do not derail a thread again. ---
**Author:** ![squinty1880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@squinty1880](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/squinty1880)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/19 "2019-09-07T22:08:31Z")
@eNjiin don’t use offensive language such as “the r word” ---
**Author:** ![ItsSherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/20 "2019-09-07T22:09:12Z")
@NoelLemon2 No one was derailing the thread. Please refrain to make these kind of claims when people are actually having an on topic discussion. Also I would be happy if you wouldnt “warn” people. Thank you @eNjiin No need to insult him. I will delete your post. You can repost if you are willing to choose your words more wisely ---
**Author:** ![squinty1880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@squinty1880](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/squinty1880)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022/21 "2019-09-07T22:10:13Z")
I didn’t know @NoelLemon2 was a mod now and can be throwing out warnings like this to actual mods like @ItsSherlock @NMEGaryOak how does this make you feel? [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/no-chance-in-pvp/21022.md?page=2)