# NMEduck's PvP Season 28-29 Nerf Poll

**URL:** <https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071>\
**Category:** Neo Monsters\
**Created:** [January 18, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071 "2021-01-18T18:33:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/1 "2021-01-18T18:33:04Z")

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I may regret this in the future, but I’ve decided to create two nerf polls so we can see which nerfs are most popular with everyone in the forum.

_Poll ([view on site](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/1))_

_Poll ([view on site](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/1))_

Because I am unable to add new options to a poll that is older than five minutes, I posted several comments below that can count as new options if you give them a link. I’ll put them right here so it is easier to find them.

- Like this post if you think the Roaring Entrance buff should be reverted  
[NMEduck's PvP Season 28-29 Nerf Poll - #16 by NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/16)

- Like this post if you think Leira may need to be nerfed in the future but not right now  
[NMEduck's PvP Season 28-29 Nerf Poll - #15 by NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/15)

- Like this post if you think RAW moves may need to be nerfed in the future but not right now  
[NMEduck's PvP Season 28-29 Nerf Poll - #3 by NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/3)

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**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/2 "2021-01-18T18:52:05Z")

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Forgot to mention that anyone who thinks I should have included something in the poll such as leira, ahuizard, etc. can just common which ones.

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**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/3 "2021-01-18T19:04:02Z")

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@DevilsMisfortune requested to have RAW moves added to the poll but I can’t edit them after five minutes.

**Like this post if you think RAW moves may need to be nerfed in the future but not right now.**

If they were nerfed at some point, they would likely be given back their sec reduction and be unable to bypass protectors/taunt. Moves like RAW Bloodcrave would cost 70sec again, but AP spam would likely re-emerge to some degree in the meta.

Disclaimer: I absolutely despise AP spam and would never want the RAW buff to be undone even if key monsters such as Bloom were to be given RAW moves.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/randolph/32/27004_2.png) [@Randolph](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/4 "2021-01-18T19:06:59Z")

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Kirina is insane but does anyone even have her awoken?

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**Author:** ![DevilsMisfortune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/devilsmisfortune/32/30623_2.png) [@DevilsMisfortune](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DevilsMisfortune)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/5 "2021-01-18T19:07:46Z")

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I consider it “right now” priority, but I also don’t think AP spam would come back as long as RAW is given to the right monsters (starting with Bloomluga).

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**Author:** ![BlazingStorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/blazingstorm/32/28131_2.png) [@BlazingStorm](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/BlazingStorm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/6 "2021-01-18T19:07:56Z")

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Does she need to be awaken.Her awaken form is only better because of stampede

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**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/7 "2021-01-18T19:09:02Z")

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A few people do but tbh awakening kirina is a waste of money when you could get something like an awakened suikenshi instead. It works almost exactly the same for a lower cost since the defense and hp don’t make that much of a difference with its passive.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/randolph/32/27004_2.png) [@Randolph](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/8 "2021-01-18T19:09:47Z")

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tbh AP meta is just toxic, I´ll never understand why people want that to be pushed again.  
It is still playable and I feel it just takes so much decision making away from the game.

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**Author:** ![BlazingStorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/blazingstorm/32/28131_2.png) [@BlazingStorm](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/BlazingStorm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/9 "2021-01-18T19:11:18Z")

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I just hate ap spam with auro bloom and dusc.Too much rng and shielding

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**Author:** ![DevilsMisfortune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/devilsmisfortune/32/30623_2.png) [@DevilsMisfortune](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DevilsMisfortune)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/10 "2021-01-18T19:11:46Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> It is still playable

I disagree, it’s too risky for the reward it gives. Regardless I don’t want AP Spam back, just protectors as a whole to make slower front lines viable again.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/randolph/32/27004_2.png) [@Randolph](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/11 "2021-01-18T19:12:09Z")

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Piercing on 1 move + Fury and True Hit seems like a very solid upgrade to me.

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**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/12 "2021-01-18T19:13:59Z")

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True, but there are many mythics that gain a lot more from awakening it so that’s why I think it would be a waste to spend on it.

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**Author:** ![BlazingStorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/blazingstorm/32/28131_2.png) [@BlazingStorm](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/BlazingStorm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/13 "2021-01-18T19:15:39Z")

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Lmao no one except me thinks of nerfing nova in the priority one

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**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/14 "2021-01-18T19:16:15Z")

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**Good.**

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**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/15 "2021-01-18T19:23:42Z")

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**Like this post if you think Leira may need to be nerfed in the future but not right now**.

Not many people own Leira which is why this would belong in the second poll. From what I’ve seen, it can be incredibly powerful when used correctly.

Edit: just gonna add that I would like this post if I was allowed to

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**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/16 "2021-01-18T19:33:50Z")

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**Like this post if you think the Roaring Entrance buff should be reverted.**

IMO it should be reverted because buffing roaring entrance was dumm

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**Author:** ![NMEGaryOak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmegaryoak/32/20469_2.png) [@NMEGaryOak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEGaryOak)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/17 "2021-01-18T21:09:37Z")

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Lol did someone change my vote I didn’t vote for infernicorn

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**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/18 "2021-01-18T21:13:43Z")

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dunno but you can change your vote back to something else

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**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/19 "2021-01-18T22:27:26Z")

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> [@DevilsMisfortune](#):
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> I don’t want AP Spam back, just protectors as a whole to make slower front lines viable again.

I’ve always wondered what it would be like if protectors weren’t exposed to protect killer weaknesses until they had actually used Protect.

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**Author:** ![BlazingStorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/blazingstorm/32/28131_2.png) [@BlazingStorm](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/BlazingStorm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nmeducks-pvp-season-28-29-nerf-poll/31071/20 "2021-01-18T22:29:18Z")

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I think if taunt mons increase and become the meta then adding protect killer weakness but weaker than normal crit protect killer will do

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