# New update **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [July 27, 2016, 6:41am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-update/4666 "2016-07-27T06:41:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![StanOo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@StanOo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/StanOo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 6:41am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-update/4666/1 "2016-07-27T06:41:10Z")
The new update is out and it seems that Rhino has hold ground now. Can anybody else confirm I was not not hallucinating ? ---
**Author:** ![lipnoddle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@lipnoddle](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/lipnoddle)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-update/4666/2 "2016-07-27T15:10:24Z")
True ---
**Author:** ![Snuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Snuffy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Snuffy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-update/4666/3 "2016-07-28T02:34:50Z")
They do have hold ground ---
**Author:** ![paigegxcci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/paigegxcci/32/6188_2.png) [@paigegxcci](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/paigegxcci)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 9:15am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-update/4666/4 "2016-07-28T09:15:34Z")
I’m not happy about it tbh haha because my team are only super epics, I relied on them both to help me defeat really strong teams but now if they’re poisoned they’re useless and I use both of mine with two of my poison massacres but now the risk of them getting poisoned and losing death revenge makes them pointless in that line up ---
**Author:** ![blackdroid52](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/blackdroid52/32/19903_2.png) [@blackdroid52](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/blackdroid52)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 9:37am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-update/4666/5 "2016-07-28T09:37:26Z")
Exactly the same with my monster lineup now my death revengers r useless, those ppl who r not Lucky enough to get legendary rely on this strategy, this is not fare devs ---
**Author:** ![Lucrayzor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lucrayzor/32/31298_2.png) [@Lucrayzor](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Lucrayzor)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-update/4666/6 "2016-07-28T17:34:20Z")
> [@blackdroid52](#): > > Exactly the same with my monster lineup now my death revengers r useless, those ppl who r not Lucky enough to get legendary rely on this strategy, this is not fare devs Guys, that’s precisely the reason they needed to be nerfed. Those two were far too convenient and cheap ways to score free kills with little cost. ---
**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-update/4666/7 "2016-07-28T17:56:08Z")
There is always someone who has to complain. ---
**Author:** ![Buckingham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/buckingham/32/5780_2.png) [@Buckingham](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Buckingham)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-update/4666/8 "2016-07-28T19:38:35Z")
> [@Zard](#): > > There is always someone who has to complain. There is another point of view, which is that they help worse players fight against better ones. Put it this way though. As a top player I used both of them simply because they were extremely efficient. Poison gas and sendback are both extreme utility moves and the death revenge made them extremely cost efficient. I used them over many different legendaries and pretty much every super epic because they were that good. While it may be annoying to have them nerfed it’s not healthy for the meta game for monsters that powerful to exist. Same reason I’m excited about robinator, it breaks the pvp paywall that is aegisdragon ---
**Author:** ![TheGreatest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/thegreatest/32/10747_2.png) [@TheGreatest](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TheGreatest)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-update/4666/9 "2016-07-28T20:08:36Z")
That is if robinator is faster than aegis or actually fast at all… I never really had trouble with aegis, it just dies too quick…i can understand that it would be hard for less experienced players… the terms “worse” and “better” need defining in this case. Beating someone once doesn’t make them worse than you, rank and legend count also aren’t a factor in player prestige as well… ---
**Author:** ![Zardecil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/zardecil/32/7546_2.png) [@Zardecil](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zardecil)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-update/4666/10 "2016-07-28T20:23:25Z")
Aegis is shadowyrm food for me. ---
**Author:** ![paigegxcci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/paigegxcci/32/6188_2.png) [@paigegxcci](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/paigegxcci)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-update/4666/11 "2016-07-28T20:53:36Z")
I’m not really complaining about it, it’s just slightly annoying to have to create a whole new team. They were good for players that haven’t had any luck rolling legendaries. I’m not even a f2p player, I’ve spend a fair bit on gems but must have extremely bad luck haha