# New FL
**URL:** https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890
**Category:** Neo Monsters
**Created:** [August 29, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890 "2019-08-29T13:21:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/1 "2019-08-29T13:21:37Z")
Looking to get the community’s input on a new front line i’m tweaking.
Frostmoroz takes the first turn and Gift exchanges the diamond. Frost is set back 42 secs.
Icefang roaring enters and raw repulses, stuns or assassinates
Double Retribution and Retribution are now activated to take out anything that still has a turn within the 42 secs Frost left.
Dual GT. Hellfox 1 sec rebirths Ice and Hell and Angel both get to Retribution again. Also, the enemy now has 2 box jaws in the team.
I’m having some success with this atm but I think it could be better. It’s still not as successful as my usual FL but it’s uniqueness is appealing to me. Is Icefang the right guy to bring in 5th? Angel needs to stay for OoO but maybe Hellfox could change?
Either way I love the gift exchanging the diamond idea. If diamond dies it doesn’t matter either. Any thoughts on improving this would be appreciated.
Cheers guys!
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### Author:  [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/2 "2019-08-29T13:28:48Z")
Cool idea for sure, it’s very similar to those TT + Hellfox retribution teams in the past. Only issue is the lack of sweeping until 52% and 51% speed plus your team is extremely weak to chrono killer and losing Angelion makes you totally open to stun. However, if people aren’t running high speed things that can kill or they’re running a protector in the front line you will be positioned very nicely to start killing your way through their team.
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### Author:  [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 1:31pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/3 "2019-08-29T13:31:57Z")
I have Willow in 6th. If Angel dies Willow is there and it’s unlikely Angel will die before the diamond 🙂
The diamond protects 2 attacks and Icefang repulses the third. Once diamond dies so I have time to get to the sweeping
It is weak to Chrono killer I agree, but unless they have roaring they will die first.
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### Author:  [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/4 "2019-08-29T13:33:02Z")
Nightrider approves your FL 😂
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### Author:  [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 1:35pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/5 "2019-08-29T13:35:28Z")
True, but only if it desperate all on the first turn. It does struggle with AoE spam it struggles with, but it beats
OoO
Some Cani
AP spam
Some Magga
It’s easy to see weaknesses because no FL counters everything, but any ideas to make it more bullet proof?
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### Author:  [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/6 "2019-08-29T13:37:01Z")
Good, I was going to suggest an absorber in 6th position. I do think it’s a cool FL with decent potential. Sometimes when I see/make something like this I go try it out and find it gets crushed by all the other things out there haha. Like my link earth team which has some great sweeping potential and a stun absorber but the monsters don’t start sweeping until 50% speed or below and against most teams I face my strategy gets ruined before it has a chance to get going.
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### Author:  [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/7 "2019-08-29T13:38:31Z")
Yeah I know what you mean. As I said the diamond buys me time and the roaring entrance helps as well.
I was thinking about banedragon so the retribution’s make it through HG but then the raw repulse is so key
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### Author:  [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/8 "2019-08-29T13:39:09Z")
I’ll probably run my usual team in PvP but if I can make this work I want to try it 😊
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### Author:  [@Raines](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Raines)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/9 "2019-08-29T13:42:32Z")
Yeah I was also about to suggest the poison because getting hit by a double desperate strike from lordreign would be nasty.
But overall the concept is very nice 👌
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### Author:  [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/10 "2019-08-29T13:50:24Z")
Lords would be assassinated and double Ret 😊 or repulsed. But it’s a good call
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### Author:  [@Raines](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Raines)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/11 "2019-08-29T14:00:31Z")
I meant if it had overwatch on with other protectors that might get hit with by the repulse instead (I’m not sure of it’s speed tho )
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### Author:  [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/12 "2019-08-29T14:02:06Z")
Yeah multiple APs, one with overwatch is a problem
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### Author:  [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/13 "2019-08-29T14:11:52Z")
> [@Raines](#):
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> double desperate strike from lordreign would be nasty
I think Lordsreign will almost never be used in the front line now that Midas can’t use its link team turn immediately. If we see another extremely powerful link holy FL that needs a good protector then Lords will see some play there again. Also, Lords has 50% speed so Angelion and Hellfox can often be in front of him.
Titanomoth is the one that will be annoying in that way though.
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### Author:  [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/14 "2019-08-29T14:14:21Z")
You’re right, TNB King and I struggled earlier because i’d get ahead if I repulsed Titan and he would if it was stag.
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### Author:  [@Raines](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Raines)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/15 "2019-08-29T14:58:30Z")
> [@Killerdog](#):
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> I think Lordsreign will almost never be used in the front line now that Midas can’t use its link team turn immediately.
I am referring to the current meta for special rule PvP which is AP spam atm not normal PvP
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### Author:  [@Raghnius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Raghnius)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/16 "2019-08-29T15:52:53Z")
Beautiful FL! Then I play some test games to see if I can beat her. I know you have a very good middle and end of the game. 😉
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### Author:  [@eNjiin](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/eNjiin)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/17 "2019-08-29T16:13:16Z")
Ohhh that was your FL. You were yesterday my first match for this pvp 😂 sick lineup but you were relying to much on ap. I remember exactly that match in the middle and thought somebody likes to rely on rng
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### Author:  [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/18 "2019-08-29T16:16:32Z")
We went 1-1 I think! They were good games. I don’t remember running many protectors. Although I use flutter clone
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### Author:  [@keets](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/keets)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/19 "2019-08-29T17:21:27Z")
Similar idea I’ve been testing is with dusc, tago, and goldoid. Cannibalize goldoid so it gets in their lineup and have tago/alba waiting with assassinate
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### Author:  [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-fl/20890/20 "2019-09-06T21:15:10Z")
Testing my new FL which i’m really enjoying. Played this guy earlier and look what he runs the second time 😂😂😂Barnhart, if you’re in here you’re welcome for this absolute Gem.
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