# New Balance Changes (Update Ver.2.56.2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [April 21, 2025, 4:15am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148 "2025-04-21T04:15:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cheerful](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cheerful/32/67854_2.png) [@cheerful](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/cheerful)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 4:15am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/1 "2025-04-21T04:15:09Z")
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**Author:** ![cheerful](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cheerful/32/67854_2.png) [@cheerful](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/cheerful)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 4:17am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/2 "2025-04-21T04:17:13Z")
Another new mythical monster ---
**Author:** ![cheerful](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cheerful/32/67854_2.png) [@cheerful](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/cheerful)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 4:17am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/3 "2025-04-21T04:17:50Z")
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**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 4:26am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/4 "2025-04-21T04:26:03Z")
“Kasumi” is a new monster I’m guessing since the character can not be found through “!” mark on the skill. I don’t understand the nerf on thugfrog. Like that combo gets ruined by time freeze but Mortilys is fine? Also here: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/3/5/35494a16730a26923104b2f9920ed8bb39323f0b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Tavaray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Tavaray](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tavaray)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 4:57am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/5 "2025-04-21T04:57:16Z")
Really? So they changed the frog and not the bird😑 like wasnt that Irid combo more popular ---
**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 5:54am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/7 "2025-04-21T05:54:49Z")
That mini update was seriously underwhelming—those monster changes barely moved the needle. Mai’s still stuck in the same spot, and Sonic Fang is still impossible to use. Demontoad was only part of the Slash All problem—the entire mechanic needed a proper rework. I really hope this isn’t just a weak attempt to justify adding new monsters to the dex for the sake of sales. We need a real balance patch, not a band-aid. ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 6:48am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/9 "2025-04-21T06:48:28Z")
Jerboooo ---
**Author:** ![Cnu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cnu/32/30314_2.png) [@Cnu](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cnu)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 8:47am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/10 "2025-04-21T08:47:29Z")
Anyone saw that new cyber cockroach? ---
**Author:** ![Rctuga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/rctuga/32/56460_2.png) [@Rctuga](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Rctuga)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 9:03am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/11 "2025-04-21T09:03:27Z")
Mai still locked by her own random moveset! This is wroung Why dont devs just rework her and make it a proper mythic instead of wasting a spot on a update doing absolute nothing to it This called “UPDATE” is nothing more than a reason to add new mythics to the game and stole more maney from whales Please Open your yes fellas ---
**Author:** ![Cesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cesar/32/76219_2.png) [@Cesar](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cesar)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 9:20am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/12 "2025-04-21T09:20:59Z")
> [@NoelLemon2](#): > > Je ne comprends pas le nerf de Thugfrog. Comme si ce combo était gâché par le gel And anyway this kind of thing can’t work on high level players ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 4:29am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/13 "2025-05-23T04:29:32Z")
My thoughts on Mai, Sonic fang should act in a way similar to fast-breaker, if its 11 seconds it should still kill up to 20 seconds but damage decreases by each second. The RNG on this is crazy Asmr should honestly be changed its the weakest move in the set, it would be 10x better if it was useable against enemies SS is boring Other than that i would say she is a 6/10 but since she summons jerbo thats an extra point 7/10 ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/14 "2025-05-23T12:50:37Z")
> [@Mr.X](#): > > Sonic fang should act in a way similar to fast-breaker, if its 11 seconds it should still kill up to 20 seconds but damage decreases by each second That would be absolutely broken for combo enabling in the front line. Her and Prixis are already super strong in the FL by taking out any high speed stuff or simply skipping then killing them if they skip back or taking out the next enemy to get a turn. ASMR is an efficient heal move that can also line up sonic fang. I think it’s one of the cool parts of her design. SS makes her useful in the FL as well as being reusable each time she revives herself is pretty cool. Not saying she’s super strong or anything, but she’s perfectly functional and now has a good combo with the new mythic. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/15 "2025-05-23T14:22:15Z")
Firstly sonic fang is not the same as sonic break where it has a condition that a beast is required and cost the same tu. For fulfilling that condition an extra 10tu is a reward you would expect otherwise its just a weaker sonic break, lets keep in mind that she doesnt have something to keep going like Prixis. Either rng aligns the tu or you miss a turn Asmr is not a great heal please stop the nonsense, its probably the worst move in the game that a mythic has, furthermore encore should make the next entry a bit faster as a reward instead of being pullback with no real reward just to get rid of a dead weight ---
**Author:** ![VNchaohunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/vnchaohunter/32/7575_2.png) [@VNchaohunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/VNchaohunter)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/16 "2025-05-23T14:26:54Z")
Give some love to the old Mythics. Onyx should give him Double Nightmare Grip instead of Depstike Wave. Elem healing in general, reduce the skill, 160s (+0) and 136s (+9) is too much, while it is rarely effective in the current meta. My suggestion is 100s Christine . Exile = Oust = 59s. Bloodfury seems to be not enough for the meta now. Should it be Double bloodfury??? ---
**Author:** ![VNchaohunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/vnchaohunter/32/7575_2.png) [@VNchaohunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/VNchaohunter)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/17 "2025-05-23T14:34:31Z")
Dragulus is too out of meta. Maybe he should be completely reworked. But if not, can we replace Gigaflame with a 59s skill that reduces HP by half like Nightmare Grip? ---
**Author:** ![VNchaohunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/vnchaohunter/32/7575_2.png) [@VNchaohunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/VNchaohunter)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/18 "2025-05-23T14:36:47Z")
Can Azida replace Zalous atk with Percing blow. When there are too many pass skills that increase defense. There are too many other old mythics. Hope Dev, you can consider this suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/19 "2025-05-23T16:58:30Z")
> [@Mr.X](#): > > For fulfilling that condition an extra 10tu is a reward Mai can sonic fang anything 74-87% speed. With the window becoming 20s that would be 59-87% speed. That’s a huge window. Beasts are very common so it will be easy to make piercing. > [@Mr.X](#): > > Either rng aligns the tu or you miss a turn Skip turn and it’s just a minor inconvenience, particularly for that first attack because if you don’t have a target in the 74-87% window then the enemies are more likely to be bunched up in turns so the opponent can’t even avoid getting attacked by not skipping back. > [@Mr.X](#): > > Asmr is not a great heal please stop the nonsense, its probably the worst move in the game that a mythic has It’s effectively a 90TU (75s with bonus) heal move with no restrictions and Mai can shield + heal something on the first turn. ---
**Author:** ![Cesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cesar/32/76219_2.png) [@Cesar](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cesar)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 5:27pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/20 "2025-05-23T17:27:41Z")
> [@Mr.X](#): > > L’ASMR n’est pas un grand soin, s’il vous plaît, arrêtez ces bêtises, c’est probablement le pire mouvement du jeu qu’un mythique ait, de plus, Encore devrait rendre la prochaine entrée un peu plus rapide en guise de récompense au lieu d’être un retrait sans réelle récompense juste pour se débarrasser d’un poids mort lol. ASMR is better than Prixi’s drift. The drift is effective for small shooting windows but it is often faced with situations where it must be used several To reach a target, Mai does not have this problem ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/21 "2025-05-23T17:36:49Z")
> [@Killerdog](#): > > Mai can sonic fang anything 74-87% speed. With the window becoming 20s that would be 59-87% speed. That’s a huge window. Beasts are very common so it will be easy to make piercing. You are assuming that mai must be in FL otherwise its total rng festia making her useless anywhere outside FL, and on top of that a beast is required for a skill move that is literally on another mythic that doesnt have this condition and can align things more effectively Also i would like to inform you that 74 speed is not guaranteed it can still result in rng festia where the monster is 11 tu away. My suggestion makes it balanced where its decreasing damage, it can deal with Fast FL but doesnt target any monsters below 60 speed, and gives her a window to be played outside FL as 20tu can be aligned better Asmar is a total disaster of a move no matter how you look at it, there tons of much better healings in the game ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 5:39pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148/22 "2025-05-23T17:39:53Z")
Other than draft she has slipstrem that she can align with the draft, please stop this nonsense that asmr align better, because she literally has to stun your own monster in the hopes that 25 tu window gap will align with 10tu and hopes there is no shift in the monsters Furthermore she has bloodthrist to keep going unlike mai who has to keep aligning each time for a kill and requires a beast for sonic break which is the default move on prixis without any conditions [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/new-balance-changes-update-ver-2-56-2/60148.md?page=2)