# NERF CYBERYON **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [April 25, 2021, 12:34pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598 "2021-04-25T12:34:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Alvarez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/alvarez/32/43007_2.png) [@Alvarez](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Alvarez)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/22 "2021-04-25T15:32:49Z")
> [@3iNST3iN](#): > > CYBERION BRO ⬇ scarle guard and spectrefox (S) best for this one ---
**Author:** ![3iNST3iN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/3inst3in/32/35890_2.png) [@3iNST3iN](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/3iNST3iN)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/23 "2021-04-25T15:40:17Z")
> [@Alvarez](#): > > Scarle Guard y Spectrefox (S) lo mejor para este. It’s one thing to counter a monster, I wonder what it has to do with it? It’s like I say, I can kill Moku with Vigzaird … what does that have to do with ??? . . . > [@Pain\_Luffy](#): > > Por favor, deje de quejarse de los aturdimientos o deje que todos se quejen también del veneno > > ¿No eres un jugador profesional? Tienes que adaptarte a los mejores equipos actuales y hacer que tus contramedidas también sean apropiadas jajaja I say that the monster stuns for 400 seconds and it seems excessive to me, until now I have not heard any coherent foundation other than cataloging as “Complaint” an observation in pursuit of improving the balance of the game, and that by the way I clarify, the developers They have already taken a similar measure with Husking, so what I say is not far from reality ---
**Author:** ![Pain\_Luffy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/pain_luffy/32/33350_2.png) [@Pain\_Luffy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Pain_Luffy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/24 "2021-04-25T15:53:16Z")
U know what a broken or unbalanced mean? It means little to no counter So as u can understand there are unlimited counters as for the rng that mak3s it mostly impossible so basicly its not unbalanced but actually well placed ---
**Author:** ![DMGInterference](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmginterference/32/50532_2.png) [@DMGInterference](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMGInterference)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/25 "2021-04-25T16:03:00Z")
> [@Pain\_Luffy](#): > > Pls stop complaining on stuns or else lets all complain on poison too I agree the Cyberion+Angelion combo isn’t a problem specifically, since that combo in particular is not easy to pull off, but Stun is objectively more oppressive than Poison, especially since some months ago when they made impossible to use Toxic Entrance in 5th ---
**Author:** ![3iNST3iN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/3inst3in/32/35890_2.png) [@3iNST3iN](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/3iNST3iN)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/26 "2021-04-25T16:06:59Z")
> [@DMGInterference](#): > > Estoy de acuerdo en que el combo Cyberion + Angelion no es un problema específicamente, ya que ese combo en particular no es fácil de lograr, pero Stun es objetivamente más opresivo que Poison, especialmente desde hace algunos meses cuando hicieron imposible el uso de Toxic Entrance en 5th I agree ---
**Author:** ![Pain\_Luffy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/pain_luffy/32/33350_2.png) [@Pain\_Luffy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Pain_Luffy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/27 "2021-04-25T16:15:48Z")
Im not saying stun isnt hard to counter i cam3 back 1 week ago with a new account so basicly im new but i used to play before stun counter was even in the game which was a hell of a time with stuns😅 after first stun counter i stopped but it was game chqnging ---
**Author:** ![TNCGodZeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncgodzeus/32/31121_2.png) [@TNCGodZeus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCGodZeus)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/28 "2021-04-25T16:40:09Z")
@Killerdog Another thread to finish talking about Nova, loooooooooooo​:joy:😂😂😂😂lllllllllllllll ---
**Author:** ![3iNST3iN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/3inst3in/32/35890_2.png) [@3iNST3iN](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/3iNST3iN)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/29 "2021-04-25T16:41:56Z")
> [@TNCGodZeus](#): > > @KillerdogOtro hilo para terminar hablando de Nova, loooooooooooo: joy: :alegría::alegría::alegría::alegría:lllllllllllllll It is not the fault of the thread, but of the people who keep talking about it ---
**Author:** ![3iNST3iN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/3inst3in/32/35890_2.png) [@3iNST3iN](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/3iNST3iN)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/30 "2021-04-25T16:49:46Z")
Likewise, the thread is not talking about “nerf” nova or his abilities, no one is arguing about it … If you read the comments, everyone talks here about Cyberion and Angelion, the thread is fine ---
**Author:** ![Pain\_Luffy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/pain_luffy/32/33350_2.png) [@Pain\_Luffy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Pain_Luffy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/31 "2021-04-25T16:58:47Z")
I agree i just referred to something i told u about nova in another topic but didnt even argue about him so ig the thread is perfectly fine 😁hehe ---
**Author:** ![3iNST3iN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/3inst3in/32/35890_2.png) [@3iNST3iN](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/3iNST3iN)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/32 "2021-04-25T17:10:29Z")
> [@Pain\_Luffy](#): > > algo que dije u sobre nova en otro tema, pero aún no ha siquiera discuto sobre él para ig el hilo está perfectamente bien :sonrisa:jeje I agree ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/33 "2021-04-25T17:36:08Z")
> [@3iNST3iN](#): > > A few months ago they gave “Husking” Nerf so that he couldn’t use “Power Show” on himself. So they have ruined a monster Husking could only do this for a short time. Originally the “show of power/might” moves couldn’t be used until 100s had passed from their first turn. This was buffed to be “100s from start of battle”. However, that buff created a new use where the monster simply sacrifices itself to stun the enemies. This was never the intended use so it was changed to not be able to target the user. Long story short: Huskegon/Husking has been buffed A LOT since its release so there’s no point focusing on the one nerf it had of something that was never intended. **As for Angelion + Cybereon…** They’re both 16 cost with their secret skills so you’re talking about one of the most expensive 2-monster combos possible. They’re both squishy monsters with mediocre speed and together are weak to chrono, toxic AND stun killer. Additionally, stun protection is incredibly common so the combo can easily fail. The only thing the combo has going for it is that it gives a good amount of stun if you can pull it off with no problems (great for setting up a win condition when all enemies are stunned like Novadrake) and both monsters are strong anyway so if you don’t want to use the combo you can sendback Cybereon and use Angelion normally. Honestly, sounds like the kind of combo I want in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Pain\_Luffy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/pain_luffy/32/33350_2.png) [@Pain\_Luffy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Pain_Luffy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/34 "2021-04-25T17:38:13Z")
Any complex combo shows skill when it is executed which why i agree that these hard to do combos are cool to be there ---
**Author:** ![3iNST3iN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/3inst3in/32/35890_2.png) [@3iNST3iN](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/3iNST3iN)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/35 "2021-04-25T17:41:23Z")
if I agree, now that I hear comments I think Angelion does not deserve Nerf … but the one that deserves Nerf is: “Cyberion” … Since they can revive it with any monster like “Arthasis” “Angelion” “Hellfox” etc. and he will stun for 400 sec … I think his Ss (secret skill) is wrong, it should be changed to “Paralyzing Flash” (stuns 100sec like Gallio dragon) I just think so ---
**Author:** ![Pain\_Luffy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/pain_luffy/32/33350_2.png) [@Pain\_Luffy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Pain_Luffy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/36 "2021-04-25T17:43:58Z")
Personnaly i didnt see but a few cyberion in pvp in early stages but i dont rly think many use him rn Correct me if im wrong ---
**Author:** ![Dane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dane/32/38931_2.png) [@Dane](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Dane)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/38 "2021-04-25T19:52:05Z")
Stop it lol ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/43 "2021-04-25T21:54:04Z")
Stun in general is bad and prohibits creativity. It’s so easy to stun lock someone if they don’t have too many stun immunes ---
**Author:** ![3iNST3iN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/3inst3in/32/35890_2.png) [@3iNST3iN](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/3iNST3iN)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/44 "2021-04-25T21:55:34Z")
> [@LemonSqueezy](#): > > Aturdir en general es malo y prohíbe la creatividad. I dont agree stun is fine … but one thing is for a monster to stun 200sec and another thing is for a monster to stun 400sec … It’s overkill for a single monster like Cyberion (400 sec stun) ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/45 "2021-04-25T21:58:54Z")
> [@3iNST3iN](#): > > but one thing is for a monster to stun 200sec In high level PvP that’s enough, game over. ---
**Author:** ![3iNST3iN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/3inst3in/32/35890_2.png) [@3iNST3iN](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/3iNST3iN)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598/46 "2021-04-25T22:01:20Z")
If it you seems like a lot then imagine 400 haha ​​😅 [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/nerf-cyberyon/32598.md?page=3)