# šŸ† Neo Monsters tier list (see first post) šŸ† **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters Guides and Tutorials\ **Created:** [July 6, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946 "2020-07-06T14:05:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 148
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 12:19pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3101 "2024-10-06T12:19:48Z")
Please show me the D that you think is most worth looking at ---
**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3102 "2024-10-06T12:22:10Z")
Vixian being F tier is outdated imo. Way better than some of the higher mythics (especially the snake union suikenshi). Itā€™s not just gravity field earth type ED counter but she has the lowest TU for ally sacrificing unconditionally while also having defensive passive (+ being slightly tanky mythic that can be HP boosted) is very underrated at this point. Iā€™m thinking of awakening her next in a year. ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 12:42pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3103 "2024-10-06T12:42:11Z")
Yeah after multiple buffs sheā€™s finally found her place in the game. Creating two rocks on entry and creating two bronzeshells when a teammate is sacrificed means she doesnā€™t require the huge build-around that she did before. Void piercing killing is the highlight and Iā€™ve seen teams able to utilise her pretty well to kill things plus she can even remove herself if you run out of things to throw. Removing teammates to line up a combo is also a plus, but typically something I donā€™t value super highly in the tier list because thatā€™s about specific team building. If you go into the realms of ideal scenario / specific teams then it really muddies the whole tier list so I stick with the explanation that lower tier monsters may have specific places they work very well. > [@NoelLemon2](#): > > (+ being slightly tanky mythic that can be HP boosted) is very underrated at this point What?? She has the lowest defence possible and mediocre speed. Anyway, yeah I think youā€™re right that she deserves a higher tier. I honestly forgot how much throw fodder she can summon herself now. ---
**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3104 "2024-10-06T12:48:58Z")
> [@Killerdog](#): > > She has the lowest defence possible and mediocre speed. I meant tanky for being a mythic that can be HP boosted. Bad wording (bad advertising too probably). Her speed is fine imo ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3105 "2024-10-06T12:51:01Z")
> [@Killerdog](#): > > Please show me the D that you think is most worth looking at Deez Nuts!!! Jahahahahahahaha šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ šŸ„³šŸ„³ ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3106 "2024-10-06T13:08:23Z")
Laugh all you like but I saw the DM you sent and I donā€™t think that D is worth looking at ---
**Author:** ![Draconis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/draconis/32/57289_2.png) [@Draconis](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Draconis)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3107 "2024-10-06T13:55:56Z")
That D you saw is equal to Megaiaslothā€™s speed statšŸ˜¤ ---
**Author:** ![DMGInterference](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmginterference/32/50532_2.png) [@DMGInterference](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMGInterference)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3108 "2024-10-06T13:59:55Z")
this thread got more D discussion than One Piece ---
**Author:** ![lebowquade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecae2f/32.png) [@lebowquade](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/lebowquade)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3109 "2024-10-07T19:14:12Z")
He has a ton of utility outside karma chain, it is very often that I charge bloodbath with that guy. Stun converter + stunning entrance are great, on top of the stun pulse SS and double time strike. Between that and guardian execute, in the 5th spot he usually makes between 2 and 3 kills off the bat and then bloodbaths it out. I dunno man, heā€™s very powerful and also very flexible. Frankly I think he deserves the spot. ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3110 "2024-10-07T20:46:47Z")
> [@EMI\_Eklypz](#): > > i think you might be overvaluing the Karma Chain guy in PvE As lebowquade says, itā€™s simply much easier to get kills with Trimaegus than youā€™d expect. Guardian execute is a brilliant move, stunning entrance is great, swift stun pulse ā†’ timestrike double gets a kill on basically anything you like most of the time only 25TU from Trimaegusā€™ turn and you always have karma chain to fall back on. In PvE itā€™s always been possible to skip behind an enemy then timestrike to do reasonable damage. At high level PvE this isnā€™t particularly good, youā€™ve got better options, but itā€™s close to decent with Delugazar thanks to piercing and here with Trimaegus what you do is skip behind then swift stun pulse it and timestrike double for an easy double kill even against buffed enemies. Itā€™s simply very reliable and every bit of the moveset is relevant. I enjoy using it in my own teams but where I really notice it is in biweekly missions where the teams are weaker than my own PvE teams so Trimaegus stands out even more as one of the best monsters in the team. ---
**Author:** ![Tavaray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Tavaray](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tavaray)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3111 "2024-10-08T21:33:00Z")
Still think Exo should be S+ for Pve ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3112 "2024-10-08T22:54:56Z")
I find him less good than the others (Iā€™ve used them all lots either because I own them or from picking friend monsters). My main issue is you canā€™t keep going with the cornered exterminate (the AI removes the mark from your monsters) and it doesnā€™t survive as well as the other S+ monsters. Whatā€™s your reasoning for why it should be S+? ---
**Author:** ![Exu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/exu/32/62314_2.png) [@Exu](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Exu)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 6:13am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3113 "2024-10-09T06:13:19Z")
Itā€™s probably A or S-tier. The reasons being: itā€™s a bit too slow to be S+. Cornered exterminate is one of the best PvE moves in the game but itā€™s not unconditional and depends entirely on the marks: sometimes youā€™ll have to reset them with the secret skill if AI spams AoE like it very often does, also lava entrance is quite common now and it instantly removes them. Itā€™s a win condition if things line up perfectly, especially when supported by Novemdomina. But itā€™s not quite S+ material. ---
**Author:** ![SyCon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/sycon/32/71736_2.png) [@SyCon](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/SyCon)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3114 "2024-10-14T00:07:14Z")
![1000048927](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/6/2/62fa708a99ee928a264ec3603789a5caff81548a.jpeg) Probably the worst Legendary out thereā€¦ devs need to improve it asap. It has been bad since i started playing the game over 2 years ago and not a single buff ---
**Author:** ![Draconis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/draconis/32/57289_2.png) [@Draconis](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Draconis)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3115 "2024-10-14T02:14:57Z")
Godfeather is worse as it doesnā€™t have backbite I think ---
**Author:** ![Tavaray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Tavaray](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tavaray)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3116 "2024-10-14T02:21:56Z")
Yeah tbh, with the end games we have nowadays these monsters are nothing ---
**Author:** ![SyCon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/sycon/32/71736_2.png) [@SyCon](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/SyCon)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3117 "2024-10-18T16:07:18Z")
Hey guys who do u think is better in pvp Fiona or Excaliburdragon? ---
**Author:** ![GaleKnees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/galeknees/32/44969_2.png) [@GaleKnees](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/GaleKnees)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3118 "2024-10-18T16:23:15Z")
Excaliburdragon in awakened form ever since itā€™s buff,but in second form? Fiona,but itā€™s very close plus itā€™s very niche and relies on camouflage and stealth monsters ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3119 "2024-10-18T16:46:10Z")
My opinion is obviously reflected in the tier list where Excaliburdragon is S- and Fiona is A, so you probably want other peopleā€™s opinion but I think the main thing is Fiona requires specific team building to become good. More than anything else, she support camouflage monsters. Excaliburdragon is a bit more general purpose, but needs some time to get charged up so you need some threats/protectors around it or a way to give turn to it as it charges quickly with crescendo dance (gets a charge for each enemy hit). ---
**Author:** ![Draconis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/draconis/32/57289_2.png) [@Draconis](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Draconis)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 9:20am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monsters-tier-list-see-first-post/26946/3120 "2024-10-19T09:20:50Z")
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