# Neo monster what if **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [July 4, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479 "2023-07-04T22:48:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![shadow\_play\_14](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/shadow_play_14/32/52291_2.png) [@shadow\_play\_14](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/shadow_play_14)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/1 "2023-07-04T22:48:44Z")
What if a monster has these both passive effects Stun absorber & stun converter ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/2 "2023-07-04T22:59:31Z")
stun immune overrides stun converter ---
**Author:** ![PurpleHeart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/purpleheart/32/68705_2.png) [@PurpleHeart](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/PurpleHeart)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 12:04am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/3 "2023-07-05T00:04:20Z")
this is called stun counter ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 12:06am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/4 "2023-07-05T00:06:54Z")
At least from the stun immune pvps and aethereon, stun immunity overrides the converters/counters ---
**Author:** ![PurpleHeart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/purpleheart/32/68705_2.png) [@PurpleHeart](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/PurpleHeart)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/5 "2023-07-05T00:22:01Z")
a monster that absorbs all stun (stun abs) but gains a turn when stunned (stun converter) is called a stun counter stun immunity was never a part of his question ---
**Author:** ![DMGInterference](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmginterference/32/50532_2.png) [@DMGInterference](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMGInterference)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/6 "2023-07-05T00:24:42Z")
all monsters that have stun counter counter stun, but not all monster that counter stun have stun counter ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/8 "2023-07-05T00:26:21Z")
But we’ve seen it many times before with stun immune pvp and aethereon. Stun immunity overrides converter and counter ---
**Author:** ![PurpleHeart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/purpleheart/32/68705_2.png) [@PurpleHeart](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/PurpleHeart)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/9 "2023-07-05T00:27:51Z")
but this was still not his question? ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/10 "2023-07-05T00:29:09Z")
No, but it is the answer to it. You can theorize that it’s stun counter but im pretty sure stun immunity overrides all other “stun counter” passives ---
**Author:** ![PurpleHeart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/purpleheart/32/68705_2.png) [@PurpleHeart](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/PurpleHeart)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/11 "2023-07-05T00:36:01Z")
its not the answare tho you are completly missing the point of what he said he asked for a monster that has both the passive stun abs and stun converter. that passive exsists already and its called stun counter because stun counter takes all the stun into itself absorbing it like a stun absorber but insted of taking the stun it converts it like a stun converter neither of these passives gives a monster the passive stun immune ---
**Author:** ![shadow\_play\_14](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/shadow_play_14/32/52291_2.png) [@shadow\_play\_14](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/shadow_play_14)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 12:51am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/12 "2023-07-05T00:51:57Z")
Exactly ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 6:53am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/13 "2023-07-05T06:53:19Z")
There is no stun immunity being granted here by either passive, the combination will literally just work like stun counter except for one twist… if you have another stun absorber on the battlefield that monster will also be stunned (for half the TU, because it gets split between the two absorbers). ---
**Author:** ![Esperanza](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/esperanza/32/49901_2.png) [@Esperanza](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Esperanza)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 8:54am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/14 "2023-07-05T08:54:12Z")
still hoping for a monster with both stun immunity and stun absorber as 2 passives, or combined in just 1 passive. 🥰 ---
**Author:** ![Coltraz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/coltraz/32/62996_2.png) [@Coltraz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Coltraz)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 9:03am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/15 "2023-07-05T09:03:48Z")
So you want to be protected from stun but still be able to stun others… Let’s not give hogs + stun spam players more resources. Aetheron is well balanced since it affects both sides and prevents both players from spamming with stun. ---
**Author:** ![Esperanza](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/esperanza/32/49901_2.png) [@Esperanza](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Esperanza)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 9:23am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/16 "2023-07-05T09:23:21Z")
you can place a restriction that it cannot be initially allied by any stunners, both in battlefield and reinforcements… you have a great point, and some just wants special stun protection without being a stunner themselves. ---
**Author:** ![EMI\_Eklypz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/emi_eklypz/32/35841_2.png) [@EMI\_Eklypz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/EMI_Eklypz)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 10:01am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/neo-monster-what-if/44479/17 "2023-07-05T10:01:23Z")
omg @DMGInterference where has u been? we have needed the wise words of the holy Arborgias passed down through u - his disciple