# Motor Dolph **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [September 17, 2019, 10:29am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167 "2019-09-17T10:29:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/41 "2019-09-17T15:09:10Z")
> [@LemonSqueezy](#): > > GG btw. Auro and Grovo in your usual set up is filthy I’m just having some fun. Used crap monsters like Nebel and Cosmo. Auro is fun. Usual setup has two AP’s in the front. Having one is trash. ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/42 "2019-09-17T15:09:22Z")
Only problem i see with motor and dolph is that their passive is reusable if revived. Such strong passives should be 1 time use throughout the whole battle ---
**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/43 "2019-09-17T15:11:21Z")
> [@Unown](#): > > Such strong passives should be 1 time use throughout the whole battle If that is the case then Malwings passive should be one time use. Same as Gazer. We will be opening up a big can of worms if we go down that path. PvE will suck a little more as well. @All I think we are seriously overstating the power of Dolphs passive. Sometimes he makes virtually the whole team stunable with that passive. ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/44 "2019-09-17T15:15:15Z")
I don’t usually go raw either 😊 I assume the Auro replaced stag in FL. I think passives can be looked at on a case by case basis, as summoning is different to status effects like stun and sleep etc ---
**Author:** ![ItsSherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/45 "2019-09-17T15:18:10Z")
> [@Saitama](#): > > ve learnt to live with it… I’m tired of nerfs…even on motor. Wanted to give you shoutout for your attitude towards nerfs for a long time. You’ve been an advocat for lots of strategies, even the ones you clearly disliked. That’s very rare to see and I‘d lift my head I would wear one ---
**Author:** ![NMEGaryOak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmegaryoak/32/20469_2.png) [@NMEGaryOak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEGaryOak)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/46 "2019-09-17T15:18:49Z")
> [@ItsSherlock](#): > > Its no offense at all but I can see why Motor is a problem when youre playing an AP Spam setup (Duscy/Bloom/AP/AP). He opens up your defense with replacing your APs with Shells so your sweepers become vulnerable to enemy attacks. AP spam doesn’t take any skill to run, whereas making motor work requires some skill nowadays. That’s why people are mad. If anything, I think if unmovable got taken off motor and Santa, AP spam would be a thing of the past ---
**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/47 "2019-09-17T15:19:07Z")
I sense Gary is gonna tell me off for calling Cosmo and Nebel trash. I like them don’t worry. ---
**Author:** ![NMEGaryOak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmegaryoak/32/20469_2.png) [@NMEGaryOak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEGaryOak)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/48 "2019-09-17T15:20:35Z")
> [@Saitama](#): > > I sense Gary is gonna tell me off for calling Cosmo and Nebel trash. You beat me to it @Saitama that IS what I was about to write 😂 ■■■■ you nebel and Cosmo are OP ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/49 "2019-09-17T15:22:43Z")
Shoulda posted in the loft 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/50 "2019-09-17T15:31:09Z")
> [@ItsSherlock](#): > > You’ve been an advocat for lots of strategies, even the ones you clearly disliked. Thanks for noticing. I’ve faced massive mountains in the early days of PvP teams that were impossible to beat. Sometimes I couldn’t even kill 3 monsters and rather than complain and ask for nerfs I love the challenge of overcoming such teams. Sometimes I just had to sit back and be in awe of the strong teams. That’s what triggered the PvP thread. BB spam. I loved facing it so much. Finally was able to wreck it…Took a long time though. I’ll never forget when I first faced @Unown mortar team. I couldn’t do anything but watch the show. Enjoyed it as well! ---
**Author:** ![ItsSherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/51 "2019-09-17T15:37:33Z")
The first strategy that completely trashed me was @Buckingham s Night Night Team. That was long time ago lol ---
**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/52 "2019-09-17T15:37:48Z")
> [@NMEGaryOak](#): > > AP spam doesn’t take any skill to run, whereas making motor work requires some skill nowadays. That’s why people are mad. AP spam is the most skillful strategy in Neo. Screw you Gary 😂 Btw I don’t want motor nerfed and no AP spammer opened this thread. People are mad because shells are frustrating as hell. Always have been. Give me a boxJaw anyday ---
**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/53 "2019-09-17T15:39:14Z")
I faced that exact same team. I lost 8 monsters before I could blink. ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/54 "2019-09-17T15:41:27Z")
I don’t want it nerfed either. Just a counter would be nice. And my original question of asking how people handle them 👌🏻 ---
**Author:** ![ItsSherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/55 "2019-09-17T15:41:55Z")
And now imagine it’s 2016 and the newest legend recently released was leogeist 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/56 "2019-09-17T15:44:03Z")
I know. I mentioned in detail what I try to do against both those monsters in my first reply. I want other more skilled players to actually post here and explain their tactics. I like this thread. Good idea. 👌 ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/57 "2019-09-17T15:44:47Z")
Cheers dude 👍🏻 ---
**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/58 "2019-09-17T15:47:31Z")
> [@ItsSherlock](#): > > And now imagine it’s 2016 and the newest legend recently released was leogeist 😂 lol yeah good point. I’m pretty sure my late 2018 and early 2019 team was comparable to your 2016 team. I was using the 4 star stun cloners and doomengine lol I would put money and say it was worse! ---
**Author:** ![NMEGaryOak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmegaryoak/32/20469_2.png) [@NMEGaryOak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEGaryOak)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/59 "2019-09-17T15:49:38Z")
> [@ItsSherlock](#): > > And now imagine it’s 2016 and the newest legend recently released was leogeist 😂 @ItsSherlock remember when people were mind blown that chrono killer did critical damage on Leo 😂 ---
**Author:** ![ItsSherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167/60 "2019-09-17T15:52:39Z")
I have a Screenshot of my team. I think I built it with the help of [random.org](http://random.org) 😂 > [@NMEGaryOak](#): > > @Guesswhosback remember when people were mind blown that chrono killer did critical damage on Leo 😂 Yeah, Leo was considered to be god tier. Oni/Aegis/Leo/Talo or Ultima was the FL everyone said „there’s nothing you can do about it“ 😂 [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167.md?page=2) [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/motor-dolph/21167.md?page=4)