# Lionheart

**URL:** <https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777>\
**Category:** Neo Monsters\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777 "2020-06-27T19:55:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![MementoMori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mementomori/32/28082_2.png) [@MementoMori](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MementoMori)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777/1 "2020-06-27T19:55:05Z")

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Last UC i used Lionheart and it’s revival bug worked as always but recently hasn’t i mean that was reported as a bug a long time ago and it wasn’t fixed so i supposed it’s ment to work like that but in last Balancions Trials Hell Mode Battles i used and it didn’t work it revived with average stats and i tryed with the Test your Team Option too and it was the same @Dev_VKC @Dev_BRD please let us know if the bug was fixed and it was never supposed to happen or whatever the reason for this is.

PS: If this bug didn’t exist Lionheart is potentially one of the worst legendary ever not useful in PvP neither PvE and it will need some serious rework

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**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777/2 "2020-06-27T20:01:04Z")

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> [@MementoMori](#):
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> If this bug didn’t exist Lionheart is potentially one of the worst legendary ever not useful in PvP neither PvE and it will need some serious rework

Absolutely correct. He is an utter piece of trash and it’s only the bug that made him useful in PvE only.

I’ve been saying this for a while:

> [@Kamishogun and Rexotyrant (here we go again)](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/kamishogun-and-rexotyrant-here-we-go-again/25909/17):
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> Lionheart is trash. Only good in PvE because of a bug.

> [@Share your UC team!](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/share-your-uc-team/21383/109):
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> Lionheart is trash for PvP and would be complete trash for PvE had it not been for an unexpected revival buff. That was the first time I put him in my team during this entire UC. I removed my shocker because Serenity field negates it. Didn’t need him to reach 1500+ in UC. He isn’t good, you aren’t missing out.

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**Author:** ![MementoMori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mementomori/32/28082_2.png) [@MementoMori](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MementoMori)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777/3 "2020-06-27T20:05:22Z")

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Yep if they ever want to make it viable in PvP they could simply give him Overconfident Strike i see no reason for that move to be Gyo Exclusive and it won’t make Lionheart OP

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**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777/4 "2020-06-27T20:08:53Z")

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> [@Follow these three steps to win literally every boss fight in hell mode!](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/follow-these-three-steps-to-win-literally-every-boss-fight-in-hell-mode/22379):
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> Use lionheart (friend monster if you don’t have one like me) who copies a monster’s buffs when it dies and gets reborn as a mythic. Ensure that the boss kills lionheart so it gains the boss’s buffs when it is reborn. With your 300,000 hp monster, enjoy one-shotting the boss and using natural selection to deal over 400,000 damage.

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**Author:** ![MementoMori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mementomori/32/28082_2.png) [@MementoMori](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MementoMori)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777/5 "2020-06-27T20:22:30Z")

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And maybe add instant purifying Shield as a way to justify it’s crazy 16 cost

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**Author:** ![DMG\_LUCKDRAGON](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_luckdragon/32/44670_2.png) [@DMG\_LUCKDRAGON](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_LUCKDRAGON)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777/6 "2020-06-27T20:55:52Z")

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That and Overconfident Strike would actually be very good buffs and could make him viable. Love the design of the monster.

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**Author:** ![MementoMori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mementomori/32/28082_2.png) [@MementoMori](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MementoMori)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777/7 "2020-06-27T21:00:44Z")

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Yeah I’m talking about adding both things that will make an A+ Tier maybe S for PvP so it’s nothing OP or crazy of course that could happen if the bug is finally removed because with it is a top PvE tool

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**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777/8 "2020-06-27T21:04:22Z")

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I just want him useful for PvE at least.

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**Author:** ![Exu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/exu/32/62314_2.png) [@Exu](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Exu)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777/9 "2020-06-27T21:36:11Z")

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Make it immune to poison and reduce TU of natural selection to 130.

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**Author:** ![MementoMori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mementomori/32/28082_2.png) [@MementoMori](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MementoMori)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777/10 "2020-06-27T22:02:12Z")

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For that you will have to remove HG and therefore the skill From The Edge and if you take off HG it will always revive as a Mythic because you wont be able to take it to HG and let it die from poison tick and that’s pretty OP imo

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**Author:** ![Saitama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saitama/32/11636_2.png) [@Saitama](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saitama)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777/11 "2020-06-27T22:21:35Z")

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TU of natural selection needs to be reduced. That one is a no brainer.

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**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/lionheart/26777/12 "2020-06-27T23:53:08Z")

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Natural selection is so bad it puts it into timestrike range lol
