# \[Link slayerbane all\] gyo **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [February 10, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452 "2019-02-10T13:04:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kocowind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kocowind/32/5640_2.png) [@kocowind](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kocowind)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/21 "2019-02-10T15:25:10Z")
It is still RNG based to storm monsters if enermy has just one kill. Many time my gyo failed to one shot storm stun counters by LSA and lost the battle. ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_Oak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/professor_oak/32/25565_2.png) [@Professor\_Oak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Professor_Oak)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/22 "2019-02-10T15:26:26Z")
So everyone knows gyo bypasses element disadvantage and are ok with it ? Prisma doesn’t have element disadvantage per se while dealing damage. No idea why gyo has to be same as Prisma just because it’s a secret skill. Moreover Prsma is built around slayerbane mechanic . ---
**Author:** ![xWarlordx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/xwarlordx/32/8034_2.png) [@xWarlordx](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/xWarlordx)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/23 "2019-02-10T15:32:56Z")
I dont think it bypasses the disadvantage, just that the damage is so high that it doesnt make a difference. Although i never let Gyo get his lsa off so i cant really talk from experience, ill wait for Kd analysis haha. ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_Oak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/professor_oak/32/25565_2.png) [@Professor\_Oak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Professor_Oak)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/24 "2019-02-10T15:33:51Z")
It shouldn’t be high . And yes I was waiting for KD as well .rofl ---
**Author:** ![TNB\_iSegal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tnb_isegal/32/6243_2.png) [@TNB\_iSegal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNB_iSegal)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/25 "2019-02-10T16:20:16Z")
K look at ninja insta slayerbane. It will KO almost everything. Now look at a normal slayerbane. Aint 1 shotting alot. Same for magma dual slayer bane - 1 shot almost everything. Normal double slayer bane wont do that much damage. Some monsters gets their skills buffed more then others - especially SS, and especially link moves. Thats why, and its fine, unless you wanna change every monster out there - cuz even tort with double throw for a SS makes much more damage then a normal throw. ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_Oak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/professor_oak/32/25565_2.png) [@Professor\_Oak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Professor_Oak)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/26 "2019-02-10T16:34:15Z")
1,2 fine . 4 is a bit too much ! ---
**Author:** ![Laxtankk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/laxtankk/32/12497_2.png) [@Laxtankk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Laxtankk)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/27 "2019-02-10T17:31:23Z")
from what it seems link is much more powerful im assuming due to the restriction of the link so the payoff is better ---
**Author:** ![Xyzencross](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/xyzencross/32/6251_2.png) [@Xyzencross](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Xyzencross)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/28 "2019-02-10T20:37:10Z")
Last time we were talking about slayerbane secret skills you guys nerfed magma’s coz you hated it one shotting your precious water monsters, if what Prof Oak says about Gyo is true then damage for its LSA should use the same calcs as the rest -\_- ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 10:01am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/29 "2019-02-11T10:01:13Z")
Magma still one shots water monsters. ---
**Author:** ![Xyzencross](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/xyzencross/32/6251_2.png) [@Xyzencross](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Xyzencross)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 10:19am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/30 "2019-02-11T10:19:57Z")
Dont you dare tell me that when my magma cant one shot gyo with 1 kill and mechaviathan as well and even esaperidon, I’ve used magma since it was released and have seen the damage dual slayerbane did before it was nerfed. ---
**Author:** ![DarKsidE555](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/darkside555/32/6278_2.png) [@DarKsidE555](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DarKsidE555)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 10:20am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/31 "2019-02-11T10:20:00Z")
With his berserker strike, yes - but that is charged with a kill. His double retro doesn’t one shot water mons if only one targeted monster has a kill. It needs to have two mons to work. So no, magma doesn’t one shot water mons just like that, it has restrictions. ---
**Author:** ![kocowind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kocowind/32/5640_2.png) [@kocowind](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kocowind)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/32 "2019-02-11T14:16:14Z")
No. When zib’s retribution does not one shot water dophin and magma’s ss does not one shot gyo in a row, feel the pain! ---
**Author:** ![Ashiok](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ashiok/32/11421_2.png) [@Ashiok](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Ashiok)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/33 "2019-02-11T14:37:57Z")
As far as my experience with magma is concerned its dual slayerbane is always a kill even on water monsters. My monsters never survived the hit unless they had HG obviously ---
**Author:** ![Xyzencross](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/xyzencross/32/6251_2.png) [@Xyzencross](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Xyzencross)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/34 "2019-02-11T15:07:37Z")
Your water mons must have had both kills or more than 1 kill, as a magma user, before nerf, damage was as high as 8k for both mons even if they’re water with only 1 kill, after nerf, damage went down to as low as 4k for mons with average defense with 1 kill and as low as 3k + for those with high defense. ---
**Author:** ![TNB\_iSegal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tnb_isegal/32/6243_2.png) [@TNB\_iSegal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNB_iSegal)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/35 "2019-02-11T15:47:47Z")
Stop comparing SS and normal moves. Different damage scale. ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/36 "2019-02-11T15:58:54Z")
And link/raw/solo vs normal ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_Oak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/professor_oak/32/25565_2.png) [@Professor\_Oak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Professor_Oak)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/37 "2019-02-11T16:13:40Z")
I’m still not convinced about these raw/solo/link making more damage. As far as I have observed , they have much lesser TU but increased damage too ? Unless some official statement says so. @Dev_VKC @Dev_BRD it would be kind gesture of you to clarify on this and put an end to the confusion ! Do link moves make more damage than the normal counterparts ? ---
**Author:** ![Xyzencross](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/xyzencross/32/6251_2.png) [@Xyzencross](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Xyzencross)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/38 "2019-02-11T22:03:19Z")
Aren’t we talking about SS in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Xyzencross](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/xyzencross/32/6251_2.png) [@Xyzencross](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Xyzencross)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/39 "2019-02-11T22:03:54Z")
I dont think they deal more damage, only less TU ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_Oak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/professor_oak/32/25565_2.png) [@Professor\_Oak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Professor_Oak)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452/40 "2019-02-12T01:32:33Z")
Then SS should also be same right ? Making comparable damage instead of out of the chart dmg [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/link-slayerbane-all-gyo/17452.md?page=3)