# I request that they solve the problem of Rock . **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [January 5, 2023, 4:41am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247 "2023-01-05T04:41:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Cesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cesar/32/76219_2.png) [@Cesar](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cesar)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/62 "2023-01-07T21:55:21Z")
it’s a strategy of the game, it’s by no means forbidden I don’t see why it should be blamed if necessary, nerf nauticruiser, the Rock lock must also be forbidden, because there is no pleasure in playing 4v1 ---
**Author:** ![ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tondeusencarton/32/48281_2.png) [@ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 9:27am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/63 "2023-01-08T09:27:39Z")
Yeah definetly not fun too play against it I get bm alot but well I kinda deserve it at this point lol I think the bigest issue is petrify for skele make it even easier for rock lock ---
**Author:** ![Z19Kiwi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/z19kiwi/32/12079_2.png) [@Z19Kiwi](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Z19Kiwi)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 9:28am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/64 "2023-01-08T09:28:11Z")
Im not sure how you’re expecting him to get a “good grasp” of how many pods he needs to summon as he cannot see the enemy lineup so it’s pretty hard to gauge. If there’s no limit to how many pods nauti can summon, i don’t think it should be punishable to summon “enough to win” no one really gets to decide that number. ---
**Author:** ![ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tondeusencarton/32/48281_2.png) [@ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 9:31am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/65 "2023-01-08T09:31:19Z")
Well they are free to leave i already won the match and if they wanna stay for the daily they can just bm until time run out I wont report lol ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 11:11am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/66 "2023-01-08T11:11:53Z")
What I was trying to say there is that since he knows his strategy upsets people by giving them a really bad experience he should try to minimise how bad he makes it for them. I’m not saying he should give up the win when he can take it, but he should try to avoid going overboard with the number of Nautipods so he doesn’t waste the opponent’s time. ---
**Author:** ![ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tondeusencarton/32/48281_2.png) [@ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/67 "2023-01-08T16:30:37Z")
Scyberithe duel is actually broken and so ez to. Combo with kanna make it even worst ---
**Author:** ![Cesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cesar/32/76219_2.png) [@Cesar](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cesar)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/68 "2023-01-08T17:30:38Z")
but i feel like par is always faster than padrinorca is faster than him because ragnar points it out in his video against duck and when i had padrinorca in my old account he always attacked before scyberithe , i think he counters it well ---
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/69 "2023-01-08T17:50:59Z")
Orca outspeeds scyberithe less than 10% of the time. Plus, it’s good to have some variation with the speed rng so we don’t have matches that play out the same way every single time. ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/70 "2023-01-08T20:36:18Z")
> [@Cesar](#): > > when i had padrinorca in my old account he always attacked before scyberithe Padrinorca is slower, but if Scyberithe is +0 then a boosted Padrinorca will always go first. Most people don’t have it awakened or with shards so Padrinorca counters it well, but ultimately it doesn’t actually do the job. ---
**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/71 "2023-01-08T22:27:40Z")
Isnt he always paired with kanna? Idk what orca can do even if for some reason someone was playing the unofficial one on one unit (but also not have him awakened) ---
**Author:** ![ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tondeusencarton/32/48281_2.png) [@ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 11:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/72 "2023-01-08T23:33:01Z")
Having one counter that barely work isnt ennough for what he does. You can kill him after but they just gonna give turn. He have raw bloodthirst and yet every mythic spammer use it with protect it just show you how good he is. So many season the #1 had him in his fl. ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/73 "2023-01-09T00:53:45Z")
@NoelLemon2 Kanna makes no difference, raw chrono killer from Padrinorca one-shots Scyberithe. @ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn Scyberithe is strong in a good setup, but far from overpowered. There are lots of other strong FLs possible. There’s also a lot of things which soft counter him and there’s the RNG of what stays in play. It might be one of those things which when you play with it you start to see all the issues you can run into. I’ve played with my Scyberithe a lot now (had it over 3 years). Whether it’s with or without a protector, there are various things which cause it trouble. P.S. Nice job on the win yesterday. I was a bit embarrassed by some poor gameplay on my part, was worried you might make fun of me on the forum 😅 Thanks for not doing that 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/74 "2023-01-09T00:54:58Z")
oh he gives overwatch which means a chrono unit I forgor ---
**Author:** ![KING98](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/king98/32/49613_2.png) [@KING98](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/KING98)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 8:21am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/75 "2023-01-09T08:21:33Z")
That is placed and 3 hours later and 50 nautical attacks ---
**Author:** ![KING98](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/king98/32/49613_2.png) [@KING98](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/KING98)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 8:24am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/76 "2023-01-09T08:24:55Z")
Against duck his Padrinorca has come out in the last 3 games 2 times first, I have it documented on my YouTube channel. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 ---
**Author:** ![KING98](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/king98/32/49613_2.png) [@KING98](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/KING98)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 8:27am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/77 "2023-01-09T08:27:58Z")
A mí 😂😂😂😂😂 , Who are you ? I don’t know you. ---
**Author:** ![ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tondeusencarton/32/48281_2.png) [@ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/78 "2023-01-09T21:39:58Z")
Nah bro i wont make fun of you gg bro ---
**Author:** ![Cesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cesar/32/76219_2.png) [@Cesar](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cesar)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/79 "2023-01-11T16:02:31Z")
it’s true, but when I said he attacked before scyberithe I was talking about that awake version, even in the fight of Ragnar and Duck the padrinorca of Duck to attack before scyberithe of Ragnar and he does the same laugh to see orca faster than scyberithe ---
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/80 "2023-01-11T17:23:51Z")
You do realize that it’s incredibly rare for padrinorca to outspeed scyberithe right? Ragnar only uploaded the matches where orca went first to make it look like it happens more often than it really does. ---
**Author:** ![Cesar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/cesar/32/76219_2.png) [@Cesar](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Cesar)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:46pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247/81 "2023-01-11T18:46:16Z")
I know it but it happens very often, the speed of scyberithe is greater than that of Padrinorca 2%, it’s sufficient so that normally scyberithe attack every time padrinorca because it often happens with monsters Similar speeds [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247.md?page=3) [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/i-request-that-they-solve-the-problem-of-rock/42247.md?page=5)