# Having trouble with PVP? **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP\ **Created:** [December 10, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028 "2013-12-10T01:46:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Yonfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/yonfire/32/413_2.png) [@Yonfire](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Yonfire)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/121 "2013-12-20T16:44:49Z")
> [@Saul1417](#): > > Destructor > Arkwing > Snowja > Shisaguard > Goldenhorn > Bloodclaw > Infernowyrm > Barricadus > Minespider > Rooknight > Subzeratops > Vegitiger > Angelon > Omegawyrm > Don Penguini > > I saw you recommend this team on page 3 to someone. I have been using it except I used volcawolf instead of destructor because I don’t have it but I can’t seem to win one match with this setup. Is there any changes you would make? Hello hello =D I know the exact team you are speaking of here was my thought on it (I don’t have destructor either) [http://www.hunterislandforum.com/index.php/topic/1142-having-trouble-with-pvp/?p=18027](http://www.hunterislandforum.com/index.php/topic/1142-having-trouble-with-pvp/?p=18027) But if you notice, the initial team included vulcawolf but was subbed out when Tib was told the requestor was in master league. That’s when he added Destructor instead. The team is very very fun to play but also requires you know how to deal with every enemy that pops up, and understand any death revenge effects. There are plenty of bane skills, and interesting utilities to be had. I was running chopperbug up front and I think I subbed out inferno for grem, because I wanted the no defense from rook to be more effective. But if you are wanting to run something similar to that team n master I might suggest the following since you don’t have destructor. Raioh Arkwing (use the tail move if he gets stun gifted before anything else) Snowja Shisaguard Goldenhorn Bloodclaw Gremknight Barricadus Minespider Rooknight Subzeratops Vegitiger Angelon Omegawyrm Don Penguini Biggest thing is understanding each of the ARKs and their weaknesses (including your own) ---
**Author:** ![Saul1417](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saul1417/32/1090_2.png) [@Saul1417](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saul1417)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/122 "2013-12-20T17:37:58Z")
First time I used snowja xeno attack I killed 3 arks from full health in one hit each. Next battle it was only doing like 400 which I don’t get why. I understand like if there another water one it’ll hit 0 but didn’t understand why it was slot lower than before Yeah I’m quite new to pvp so I’m still learning a lot about it and today is first time I have used most of these arks so I don’t really no how to use them or fully understand there attacks. Maybe it’s bit to advanced for me but seems pointless not using them when there some of the strongest available ---
**Author:** ![Yonfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/yonfire/32/413_2.png) [@Yonfire](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Yonfire)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/123 "2013-12-20T17:44:47Z")
xeno will wreck fire, it will not work as well on metal(metalslash for them) or wind. And yeah make sure water isn’t around. Holy also is a little resistant to it, but they are a little resistant to everything. And just keep in mind that tanky arks are meant to be tanky even xeno take 2-3 hits sometimes. It also depends on the stars (not directly mind you) but the lower the stars the less stats. So like against an omega I think it take 2-3 hits as well but against say… rooknight/meowzard it usually will one hit. Xeno with no defense on will do significantly more damage but isn’t worth it most the time…in my opinion ---
**Author:** ![Saul1417](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saul1417/32/1090_2.png) [@Saul1417](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saul1417)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/124 "2013-12-20T17:56:50Z")
Do you think the team is good then? Like is there better teams and that’s why I can’t win or have I got a very good team just playing it wrong or maybe needs a little bit of changing? ---
**Author:** ![Yonfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/yonfire/32/413_2.png) [@Yonfire](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Yonfire)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/125 "2013-12-20T18:00:00Z")
It’s all subjective really. there is no best team but there are good matches and bad ones. It’s easier to use a team you come up with that you understand the best than using something else. That’s usually why I ask how  a person plays because if they are a brute force kind of player the most likely would not have the patience or enjoy a stunner team, which consequently would mean they may not play it as well. ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/126 "2013-12-20T22:16:23Z")
Yonfire is very correct. It’s all about match-ups as well as what you do as the battle goes on. Different moves are better for certain situations, etc. Unlike the other setups, that is actually one of the teams I’ve used in master league. I’ve gotten phenomenal win streaks with them. The usage is very, very important. But I understand that you’re new…we all were at one point~ If the uh…what’s it called…PvP Video recording feature gets added, we will definitely be making full guides for all of these. It will likely be 50+ different strategies tested out and explained by several experienced PvPers. We’re talking videos+written descriptions and all that jazz…how to use it, what teams they are good against, etc… I’m SOOO looking forward to it. It’ll be great. We can still do this without the videos too, but meh…it will be cooler with them…so yeah…look forward to seeing some guides posted within a month or two 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Maxmonroe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@Maxmonroe](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Maxmonroe)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/127 "2013-12-20T23:33:43Z")
Can anyone help with my Can anyone help with my PVP line up. Anything you suggest. Here it is in order, Plasmorex Subzeratops Pyrowyrm Gaiawyrm Ventowyrm Barricades Angeleon Typhonwyrm Magmawyrm Frizzeon Georex Arkwing Luxknight Omegawyrm Don EDIT: I now have a second Omegawyrm FYI. ---
**Author:** ![li0163](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/li0163/32/821_2.png) [@li0163](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/li0163)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 11:47pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/128 "2013-12-20T23:47:51Z")
> [@Yonfire](#): > > Hello hello =D > > I know the exact team you are speaking of here was my thought on it (I don’t have destructor either) [http://www.hunterislandforum.com/index.php/topic/1142-having-trouble-with-pvp/?p=18027](http://www.hunterislandforum.com/index.php/topic/1142-having-trouble-with-pvp/?p=18027) > > But if you notice, the initial team included vulcawolf but was subbed out when Tib was told the requestor was in master league. That’s when he added Destructor instead. > > The team is very very fun to play but also requires you know how to deal with every enemy that pops up, and understand any death revenge effects. There are plenty of bane skills, and interesting utilities to be had. > > I was running chopperbug up front and I think I subbed out inferno for grem, because I wanted the no defense from rook to be more effective. But if you are wanting to run something similar to that team n master I might suggest the following since you don’t have destructor. > > Raioh > Arkwing (use the tail move if he gets stun gifted before anything else) > Snowja > Shisaguard > Goldenhorn > Bloodclaw > Gremknight > Barricadus > Minespider > Rooknight > Subzeratops > Vegitiger > Angelon > Omegawyrm > Don Penguini > > Biggest thing is understanding each of the ARKs and their weaknesses (including your own) Interesting setup. Just curious - why put Snowja at the beginning? And why Shisaguard after it? Somehow I don’t have much love for Bloodclaw. I know it is meant to be a heavy hitter but I can’t see its power. And it is quite fragile. ---
**Author:** ![Yonfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/yonfire/32/413_2.png) [@Yonfire](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Yonfire)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2013, 5:35pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/129 "2013-12-21T17:35:12Z")
> [@Maxmonroe](#): > > Can anyone help with my > Can anyone help with my PVP line up. > Anything you suggest. > Here it is in order, > Plasmorex > Subzeratops > Pyrowyrm > Gaiawyrm > Ventowyrm > Barricades > Angeleon > Typhonwyrm > Magmawyrm > Frizzeon > Georex > Arkwing > Luxknight > Omegawyrm > Don > EDIT: I now have a second Omegawyrm FYI.   Short on time at the moment but if Tib doesn’t jump on today I’ll make time tonight to check this out.   > [@li0163](#): > > Interesting setup. Just curious - why put Snowja at the beginning? And why Shisaguard after it? >   > Somehow I don’t have much love for Bloodclaw. I know it is meant to be a heavy hitter but I can’t see its power. And it is quite fragile. It’s rare currently to find a water ark upfront. Xeno blade does great damage, but after the raioh goes down you have: Mystic bane Beast bane Metal slash As solid choices But heavy hitter attacks, the two xeno’s and tackyon. It really is a solid setup, of course destructor would be better with dracobane. As far as the bloodclaw there, his positioning in that spot is hoping that goldhorn dies first so that last will makes bloodclaw more beafy ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/130 "2013-12-21T21:14:31Z")
> [@Maxmonroe](#): > > Can anyone help with my > Can anyone help with my PVP line up. > > Anything you suggest. > Here it is in order, > > Plasmorex > > Subzeratops > > Pyrowyrm > > Gaiawyrm > > Ventowyrm > > Barricades > > Angeleon > > Typhonwyrm > > Magmawyrm > > Frizzeon > > Georex > > Arkwing > > Luxknight > > Omegawyrm > > Don > > EDIT: I now have a second Omegawyrm FYI. You can’t have duplicates in PvP, so the second Omegawyrm won’t help ya in multiplayer. I’ll try to stick to monsters that can be caught in the game… Subzeratops Chopperbug Kentucky Frillzeon Magmawyrm Barricades Plasmorex Gremknight Arkwing Luxknight Omegawyrm Raioh Raijin Angeleon Don It is very difficult to PvP without absolutely phenomenal monsters. However, try using that. It’s more of a strategic set up…but you need to know how to use it, lest you fail…let’s start with the end…Raioh-\>Don Penguini…long story short, opponent will be stunned after they kill raioh, then you flash bomb+Offering+SHowdown…boom. Or maybe they left both Omegawyrm and Raioh alive? Then you use stun gift, stun, stun, haste, no guard, terminate. What if they only leave Raioh? Still…stun gift, flash bomb, offering, showdown. Works, no? Next…Barricadus+powerhouse+Gremknight. Self explanatory, really…I do think that there are better combos to be used, but this is all I can offer at the moment. you protect, speed, and bash. Make sure you note opponent TU…if they are all at 200, just kill the closest one so it’s 3 against 1 in your favor, because the other opposing monsters are recovering. Make sense? I moved army flame so that you have a better chance of actually using it. This probably won’t get you too far in Masters, as the league is filled with egg monsters, hackers, and charca+stunners. But you’ll do well otherwise. Good luck, and let us know if something doesn’t work~ > [@li0163](#): > > Interesting setup. Just curious - why put Snowja at the beginning? And why Shisaguard after it? > > Somehow I don’t have much love for Bloodclaw. I know it is meant to be a heavy hitter but I can’t see its power. And it is quite fragile. Well, those fellas may be fragile…but they will be your saviors in the future. Guardiron, Destructor, Ironheart, Scorpionix, Cruiserfish, and Gearhound are some of the best monsters in the game. If you don’t have a strong metal slash, you’ll die. n.n Of course…I do approve of replacing one of them with an Octoneer, as his metal blade is much better than Snowja+Bloodclaw’s Metal Slash. ---
**Author:** ![Lethalmilk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lethalmilk/32/2093_2.png) [@Lethalmilk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Lethalmilk)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 6:32am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/131 "2013-12-22T06:32:10Z")
Ok so I changed my team around a bit the last time I posted here amd want some critque on it. Goldenhorn S Pegasion C Bloodclaw B (often switch with plasmorex, astroleon, Vulcawolf, and a few others) Chopperbug S Arkwing S Gremknight S Subzeratops S (sometimes switch with barricadus) Vegitiger B Mossgolem S Shadowstalker S Minespider A Angelon S Luxknight S Halopard A Omegawyrm S ---
**Author:** ![Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a88e57/32.png) [@Zero](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Zero)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 8:54am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/132 "2013-12-22T08:54:43Z")
Hiya, I’m looking for help forming a team. I have all monster that are in the regular game except for tremorback and the wolf due to not getting those starters to drop yet. I have been really unlucky with my gold eggs and have none of the egg monsters except for stego and subzerotops. I however have been really lucky and have s rank of all the current missions monsters. I don’t pvp much due to hackers and stun teams, but I wouldn’t mind getting a team ready for when the update hits. Any suggestions. ---
**Author:** ![li0163](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/li0163/32/821_2.png) [@li0163](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/li0163)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 12:42pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/133 "2013-12-22T12:42:14Z")
I found the Snowja + Shisaguard are extremely weak against Wind Arks. While Snowja can still use Slaughter (pretty inefficient though) and metal slash (situational), there’s nothing much Shisaguard can do. And its Mysticbane is extremely weak, takes 3 shots to take down a Nilomoth. But Shisaguard’s Xenowind is really strong (THAT damage, for just 160 TU!) so I am trying to team it up with a strong Earth Ark. But other than Vegitiger, I can’t think of any other strong Earth hitter… ---
**Author:** ![Saul1417](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/saul1417/32/1090_2.png) [@Saul1417](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Saul1417)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/134 "2013-12-22T14:16:37Z")
I replaced shishaguard with shadowstalker. Works well ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/135 "2013-12-22T15:52:09Z")
> [@Lethalmilk](#): > > Ok so I changed my team around a bit the last time I posted here amd want some critque on it. > Goldenhorn S > Pegasion C > Bloodclaw B (often switch with plasmorex, astroleon, Vulcawolf, and a few others) > Chopperbug S > Arkwing S > Gremknight S > Subzeratops S (sometimes switch with barricadus) > Vegitiger B > Mossgolem S > Shadowstalker S > Minespider A > Angelon S > Luxknight S > Halopard A > Omegawyrm S Looks nice…personally, I’d replace the end with Omwgawyrm, Halopard, Angelon, and Don Penguini…but it’s up to you. You should also be careful with placing shadow monsters in the beginning. Lots of holys float around near the front. But he is pretty fast, and he’ll do fine n.n > [@Zero](#): > > Hiya, > I’m looking for help forming a team. I have all monster that are in the regular game except for tremorback and the wolf due to not getting those starters to drop yet. I have been really unlucky with my gold eggs and have none of the egg monsters except for stego and subzerotops. I however have been really lucky and have s rank of all the current missions monsters. I don’t pvp much due to hackers and stun teams, but I wouldn’t mind getting a team ready for when the update hits. Any suggestions. Hiya! I’m sorry, but I’m really short on time. Can you please check the beginning of the thread for some non-egg-only teams? Pick ones with good responses, ofc. Lol…we plan on making a guide filled with several teams, written descriptions and explanations of strategy, and video guides on how to use them. n.n > [@li0163](#): > > I found the Snowja + Shisaguard are extremely weak against Wind Arks. While Snowja can still use Slaughter (pretty inefficient though) and metal slash (situational), there’s nothing much Shisaguard can do. And its Mysticbane is extremely weak, takes 3 shots to take down a Nilomoth. > > But Shisaguard’s Xenowind is really strong (THAT damage, for just 160 TU!) so I am trying to team it up with a strong Earth Ark. But other than Vegitiger, I can’t think of any other strong Earth hitter… Aye, it was placed there specifically because wind is not common in the beginning, save for stunners…and those stunners will not w there later, so…😛 Anyways, feel free to replace Shisaguard with a stronger monster. Some great OM will come out soon. n.n But for now, Snowja is very good to have. Again, metal monsters are SO powerful. Just like dragons. So yeah…that’s why I always keep a metal slash and a dracobane. You’ll see what I mean after a few OM. > [@Saul1417](#): > > I replaced shishaguard with shadowstalker. Works well Good. Make sure you replace the monsters with better ones as time goes by. I highly doubt that man of the current monsters will eve be used after a few months. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![bluejays192](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/bluejays192/32/1218_2.png) [@bluejays192](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/bluejays192)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/136 "2013-12-22T17:48:27Z")
> [@Tiberius](#): > > Deadpool: sweet, thanks m8. 🙂 > > Bluejays: Forgive me, I’m not very well-versed with some of those monsters. I’ll try my best. > > Necrodrake is a very powerful monster. However, it lacks speed and has a big type disadvantage. This is one of the flaws in your team. Shadow monsters are risky to use, because they are able to be defeated very easily. Almost every opponent you face will have Angelon, and perhaps a few other holys. You want consistency, and that is something you cannot achieve without a good strategy. > > If you insist on using Necodrake, you’ll want to protect it. Move a haste monster and a tank closer to it. Gremknight, necrodrake, and barricades will do. However, it is still luck based at this point. You want to be able to guarantee the usage of your monsters’ potential. This is why people use stun monsters. Placing three stun monsters before Gremknight and other monsters can win you the match. When I developed the Charcalynx+Stegospike combo a while ago (didn’t actually use it till a few days ago…and I stopped due to popular demand)…it was crucial to have support. Chopperbug, Raioh, Kentucky…they do the trick. However, I am personally not too fond of stun. Very effective, but boring. Also, the experienced players will know how to counter it. This is why strategy is so very important. You must never rely on a single plan. Use monsters that work well together. This goes for all of you folks as well. > > Another issue is the fact that so many dragons are located so very close to each other. Very troublesome indeed. Dragonbane will kill ya. > > You need to get a Ventowyrm…that’s priority number one, but I’m sure you already know that. Omegawyrm, typhonwyrm, and magma when will suffice. Do not overload a team with dragons. > > Also, go for more of the good in-game monsters. Here’s a suggested lineup after you get the needed arkadions: > > Chopperbug > Raioh > Kentucky > Barricadus > Gremknight > Necodrake > Nilomoth > Magmawyrm > Luxknight > Arkwing > Dreadwolf > Omegawyrm > Angelon > Raijin > Don Penguini > > This team is fine…however, I am still very much against using Necrodrake in PVP. It’s not well-suited for it. If you agree, let me know and I’ll try to think of something up for you. I have been using this team for awhile now and I think Necrodrake isn’t a good idea actually. I have a Ventowyrm and  a Typhoonwyrm now, so I was wondering should I just replace necrodrake with vento or typhoon? Or are there any other arks I should add or get rid of? ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/137 "2013-12-22T18:06:19Z")
Glad you think so. I was never fond of Necodrake myself. I told you that it wasn’t a good idea way back then, and I still believe that now. Anyways…Replace it with any heavy hitter, really. Typhonwyrm works fine…and what do you have? That team wasn’t meant to be “errmagerrd” as you don’t have the best monsters…but I’m sure we can come up with something~ Just wait for a few more OM to come out~ ---
**Author:** ![Lethalmilk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lethalmilk/32/2093_2.png) [@Lethalmilk](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Lethalmilk)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/138 "2013-12-22T21:15:00Z")
Thnx for the input tiberius. Not really a big fan of the don. I usually prefer monsters that have some versatility which don doesnt really offer much, though ill toy around with him and see where it goes. ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/139 "2013-12-22T21:46:28Z")
Well, he has retreat to counter scramble…death revenge…good stats…chain moves…and ofc showdown…so he’s quite a useful ark. 🙂 And yeah, no problem. ---
**Author:** ![jordanokay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/jordanokay/32/2011_2.png) [@jordanokay](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/jordanokay)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/140 "2013-12-26T21:46:29Z")
My team has strong arcadions but lacks strategy entirely lol, the most strategical part of my team as of now is the teaming up of Volcawolf, Frillzeon and Spinoflame so that Frillzeon can use Army flame and when Volcawolf is near death he can retreat and spinoflame can throw/bloodmagic him. Anyways the arks i would like to incorporate are: (i am aware this is more than 15) Shadowstalker Bloodclaw Vegitiger Minespider Volcawolf Frillzeon Spinoflame Dreadwolf Snowja Arkwing Omegawyrm Don Penguini Pegasion (if incorporated can you explain how it should be used?) Goldenhorn Coldheart Rooknight (if incorporated can you explain how it should be used?) Felimancer Subzeratops Astroleon I’d prefer the use of those but if there is another monster or two you think I’d greatly benefit from adding I could do that too. Also, I don’t like using a stun team, which is why I left those out, mostly because I don’t understand how to use one but also it’s just something I am not interested in using. Thank you 🙂 [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028.md?page=6) [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028.md?page=8)