# Having trouble with PVP? **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP\ **Created:** [December 10, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028 "2013-12-10T01:46:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![jjchen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@jjchen1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/jjchen1)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 12:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/201 "2014-01-24T12:28:30Z")
Couldn’t thy always skip a turn or scapegoat with shadowstalker after chopperbug is killed, then grem would get a turn because chain claw would not kill it, only lower it a lot. So then gremknight knocks back chopper. Thus leaving me with mine spider. If a chill queen is next, it coul have am easily sleeped my shadowstalker before it got a chance to scapegoat, leaving my mine spider vulnerable to knockback or being killed. ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 10:04pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/202 "2014-01-26T22:04:47Z")
which is why I have raioh in slot 4 and mine in slot 5. Works quite well. And btw, Gear can OHKO Gremknight and Chopper with chain claw. ---
**Author:** ![jjchen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@jjchen1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/jjchen1)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/203 "2014-01-26T23:19:59Z")
Doesn’t seem to work wih me… I use chain claw and it only kills chopper, and almost kills gremknight… ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/204 "2014-01-27T01:18:35Z")
Ah. Well, that is natural, as there are ranges of damage for every move. I guess I’m just really lucky, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Gummi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/gummi/32/1910_2.png) [@Gummi](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Gummi)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/205 "2014-01-28T21:06:28Z")
My New Deck works quite good I only having a bit trouble with Shadowstalker because My vegetgetiger does not have any special atacks to it.(btw what type is Shadowstalker?) My Lineup: Chopperbug Raioh Gremknight Stegospike Vegetiger Halopard Shisasaguard Arkwing Barricadus Minespider Omegawyrm Sanctolamb Gearwolf Angelon Don peng Any suggestions for me? Thanks in advance ---
**Author:** ![Crystal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Crystal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Crystal)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 9:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/206 "2014-01-28T21:08:14Z")
Shadowstalker’s main type is holy and subtype is mystic. ---
**Author:** ![Deadpool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/deadpool/32/19_2.png) [@Deadpool](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Deadpool)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/207 "2014-01-28T21:12:10Z")
Nothing really to combat it atm, so you’ll just have to put all your effort into killing it quickly ---
**Author:** ![Gummi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/gummi/32/1910_2.png) [@Gummi](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Gummi)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 9:16pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/208 "2014-01-28T21:16:08Z")
I ll try to kill Shadow with mysticbane from Shisasa ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 12:17am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/209 "2014-01-29T00:17:42Z")
Mysticbane needs a buff tbh. ---
**Author:** ![Nina\_Schneider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nina_schneider/32/2809_2.png) [@Nina\_Schneider](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Nina_Schneider)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 8:30am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/210 "2014-02-08T08:30:24Z")
Hey Tiberius, can you make me a nice pvp team please? I’m just using the arks like I would say its fine but I’m not really good in strategy yet, so maybe it would be cool to complain to me how I should go on haha:-) Well I have some nice arks but not all of them! But what I have is: Volcawolf Frillzeon Shisaguard Spinoflame Goldenhorn Infernowyrm Charcalynx Stego Typhoonwyrm Magmawyrm Omegawyrm Necrodrake Arkwing Anubis Snowja Pegasion Coldheart Minespider Bloodclaw Nilomoth Vegitiger Astroleon Angelon Subzeratops Tremor back Luxknight Plasmorex Shadowlance Barricadus Rooknight Gremknight Don Chopperbug Raioh Raijin Felimanzer Meowzard And all other common arks… Would be so happy for some help:-) ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/211 "2014-02-08T22:40:47Z")
You’ve got some great arkadion in that list! I suggest taking a look at some of the sample strategies I have in my warehouse, and tell me which one you like. Then, based on your response, I can make adjustments to that team to suit you, considering the monsters you have, ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Withrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/evan_withrow/32/888_2.png) [@Evan\_Withrow](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Evan_Withrow)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 1:10am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/212 "2014-02-09T01:10:40Z")
Hey! First off, I want to say thank you for helping us all out! My line-up is looking like this: Chopperbug Metallodious Luxknight Shadowlance Gremknight Plasmorex Arkwing Raijin Voltiger Goldenhorn Typhonwyrm Magmawyrm Omegawyrm Triphoon Don Also have snowja, nilox, angelon, anubis, puffoxin, naga, and most that can be caught throughout the game. Not really a whole lot of strategy other than the Chopperbug up front, the stun with Raijin, and Don at the end. Any help is appreciated 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Crystal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Crystal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Crystal)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/213 "2014-02-09T01:14:26Z")
You should use some support arks, such as Angelon, Anubis, or Halopard. The healing is very, very beneficial, as well as haste (from Angelon/Halopard), or being buffed by Halopard, too. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Withrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/evan_withrow/32/888_2.png) [@Evan\_Withrow](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Evan_Withrow)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/214 "2014-02-09T01:20:21Z")
> [@Crystal](#): > > You should use some support arks, such as Angelon, Anubis, or Halopard. The healing is very, very beneficial, as well as haste (from Angelon/Halopard), or being buffed by Halopard, too. Awesome thank you! Where would you recommend putting them in? ---
**Author:** ![Crystal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Crystal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Crystal)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 1:35am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/215 "2014-02-09T01:35:11Z")
Move Raijin back between Typhon/Magma, and put Angelon before Omega. The stun will allow you to use Vengeance an extra time and Angelon’s haste/offering will allow Omega to attack more often and survive longer (or so you’d hope!). This means you can also move Voltiger back, if you’d like to, or drop him altogether. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Withrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/evan_withrow/32/888_2.png) [@Evan\_Withrow](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Evan_Withrow)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/216 "2014-02-09T01:41:28Z")
Cool that makes sense! Thanks for the help 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bus\_All](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/bus_all/32/466_2.png) [@Bus\_All](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Bus_All)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 1:48am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/217 "2014-02-09T01:48:24Z")
Or you can stun gift & let typhon & magma cast aoe each. That will buy you a lot of time… ---
**Author:** ![Crystal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Crystal](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Crystal)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/218 "2014-02-09T02:10:43Z")
Raijin doesn’t have stun gift. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Nina\_Schneider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nina_schneider/32/2809_2.png) [@Nina\_Schneider](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Nina_Schneider)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 12:14pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/219 "2014-02-09T12:14:37Z")
At the moment I use this team: Chopperbug Goldenhorn Volcawolf Frillzeon Stego Omega Halopard Ark wing Barry Minespider Triphoon(new since yesterday when I got him) Anubis Bloodclaw Angelon Vegitiger I think I could make some more out of it?! When my opponent have a shadowstalker in the beginning I’m lost:-) I can’t kill it ! Even when he also have a mossgolem and chillqueen with his shadow!! ---
**Author:** ![Bus\_All](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/bus_all/32/466_2.png) [@Bus\_All](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Bus_All)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 12:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028/220 "2014-02-09T12:28:58Z")
> [@Crystal](#): > > Raijin doesn’t have stun gift. 😛 haha thanks for always correcting my stupidity… For some reason, my brain digested raioh… RAioh is better than raijin though… at least for pvp… > [@Nina\\\_Schneider](#): > > At the moment I use this team: > Chopperbug > Goldenhorn > Volcawolf > Frillzeon > Stego > Omega > Halopard > Ark wing > Barry > Minespider > Triphoon(new since yesterday when I got him) > Anubis > Bloodclaw > Angelon > Vegitiger > > I think I could make some more out of it?! > When my opponent have a shadowstalker in the beginning I’m lost:-) I can’t kill it ! Even when he also have a mossgolem and chillqueen with his shadow!! Why Bloodclaw, angelon, anubis & vegitiger at the back? I’d get rid of Bloodclaw & Anubis. Bring typhoon & magmawyrm instead. I’d bring raioh too… Move omega to the back & minespider at least to the middle. Wyrms have vengeance which gets stronger the more of your arks die in battle, so putting them at the back maximises this. I’d put omega, triphoon & halopard together. Its regenerate works best after reinforced & hasted. Has the army flame work very well for you? If not, i’d get rid of frillz & volcawolf. Replace with raioh & gremknight… at least you can knockback shadowstalker if its already buffed. I’d actually put minespider to the front to bomb shadowstalker. [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028.md?page=10) [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/having-trouble-with-pvp/1028.md?page=12)