# Gorgodrake and Novadrake **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [April 9, 2021, 12:22pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350 "2021-04-09T12:22:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![fran\_fortu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/fran_fortu/32/15029_2.png) [@fran\_fortu](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/fran_fortu)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/29 "2021-04-09T15:32:59Z")
I think the idea “too strong for a legendary so it should be a mythic” can be a very dangerous idea. Making nova a mythic would not make nova less oppressive, just make it harder to get a fully functioning nova. The idea of making something less broken by decreasing availability and not power is not good for game balance. Would the mythic nova be the same skills as the current nova (with same tu?). If so, what’s the change? Nova is still 16 cost and just as deadly. I understand that these low tu monsters with “negative” passives can be very oppressive because of their fast sweeping. I think this was discussed in a previous nerf thread where a lot of people voted for time increase on these monsters. I think once a monster is a legendary/mythic and needs a nerf/buff it can easily be buffed/nerfed within its current star range. No legendary/mythic to this point has needed a star change, and I feel like it should stay like that in terms of fairness. I can understand wanting a nerf to these two powerful sweepers, but I do not agree with the proposed changes. ---
**Author:** ![TNCGodZeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncgodzeus/32/31121_2.png) [@TNCGodZeus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCGodZeus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/30 "2021-04-09T15:34:48Z")
Strongly agree, just to point out that it would be more difficult to obtain just for f2p as they could just go and buy it 🤷🏽‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/31 "2021-04-09T15:35:23Z")
@TNCGodZeus Please stay on topic, discussing the balance of Novadrake and Gorgodrake rather than turning it into an argument with DonT about who his suggestions benefit. ---
**Author:** ![TNCGodZeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncgodzeus/32/31121_2.png) [@TNCGodZeus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCGodZeus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/32 "2021-04-09T15:36:08Z")
I have already understood it is not necessary the direct ---
**Author:** ![DonT89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@DonT89](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DonT89)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/33 "2021-04-09T15:36:52Z")
Seeing less Awoken Novadrake would be a very big change. ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/34 "2021-04-09T15:38:09Z")
Tbh I think the way to balance Novadrake and Gorgodrake is to simply make their skills 70TU. Maybe lowering the extra damage Novadrake has on timestrike and raw bloodthirst too ---
**Author:** ![TNCGodZeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncgodzeus/32/31121_2.png) [@TNCGodZeus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCGodZeus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/35 "2021-04-09T15:39:55Z")
How many times will we make Nova nervous? ---
**Author:** ![DonT89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@DonT89](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DonT89)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/36 "2021-04-09T15:40:16Z")
Gorgo awoken would still be crazy strong. A monster that can easy grab 3-4 kills ---
**Author:** ![TNCGodZeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncgodzeus/32/31121_2.png) [@TNCGodZeus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCGodZeus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/37 "2021-04-09T15:41:15Z")
You can still see it coming ---
**Author:** ![MementoMori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mementomori/32/28082_2.png) [@MementoMori](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MementoMori)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/38 "2021-04-09T15:46:44Z")
Both changes are absolutely necessary and maybe making Stun Wave \> Stun Flash too ---
**Author:** ![DonT89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@DonT89](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DonT89)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/39 "2021-04-09T15:49:23Z")
I still think full power nova shouldn’t be a legend. The main thing is that people should not be able to pot him +9 ---
**Author:** ![TNCGodZeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncgodzeus/32/31121_2.png) [@TNCGodZeus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCGodZeus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/40 "2021-04-09T15:54:41Z")
I’d rather see Novadrake totally eliminated from the game than watch him become a myth that you can only use … as you know ---
**Author:** ![DonT89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@DonT89](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DonT89)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/41 "2021-04-09T15:55:47Z")
I don’t use Nova, and I doubt I am going to use it as a mythic. ---
**Author:** ![VNchaohunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/vnchaohunter/32/7575_2.png) [@VNchaohunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/VNchaohunter)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/42 "2021-04-09T15:56:01Z")
I think change Timestike and bloodthirst to 100s . Stun wave and novadrake to 70s ---
**Author:** ![TNCGodZeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncgodzeus/32/31121_2.png) [@TNCGodZeus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCGodZeus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/43 "2021-04-09T15:56:24Z")
I didn’t say you use Nova 😶 ---
**Author:** ![MementoMori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mementomori/32/28082_2.png) [@MementoMori](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MementoMori)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/44 "2021-04-09T15:56:37Z")
I won’t start an argument with you over this but man that’s just wrong literally no one will support you so i recommend you to just drop it. Nova needs a serious nerf it’s no secret but what you suggest it’s unacceptable ---
**Author:** ![DonT89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@DonT89](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DonT89)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/45 "2021-04-09T15:56:46Z")
So what’s my advantage of making him a mythic? ---
**Author:** ![VNchaohunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/vnchaohunter/32/7575_2.png) [@VNchaohunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/VNchaohunter)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/46 "2021-04-09T15:57:17Z")
The game will end if novadrake has 1 kill . He kill all with bloodthirst 42s (+9) and we can’t do amything ---
**Author:** ![TNCGodZeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncgodzeus/32/31121_2.png) [@TNCGodZeus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCGodZeus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/47 "2021-04-09T15:57:23Z")
You will no longer find newbies x there stunning you and leaving you without playing 😂 ---
**Author:** ![DonT89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@DonT89](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DonT89)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/gorgodrake-and-novadrake/32350/48 "2021-04-09T15:58:14Z")
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