# general stun nerf **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [December 12, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709 "2021-12-12T18:29:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![TOG\_BaNaNaHoT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tog_bananahot/32/42652_2.png) [@TOG\_BaNaNaHoT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TOG_BaNaNaHoT)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/42 "2021-12-12T22:13:58Z")
my water link is too unprotected to stun, but at least the Plumesilik resists ---
**Author:** ![Dane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dane/32/38931_2.png) [@Dane](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Dane)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/43 "2021-12-12T22:24:33Z")
Don’t worry I’m not gonna say the outcome of the match lol ---
**Author:** ![TOG\_BaNaNaHoT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tog_bananahot/32/42652_2.png) [@TOG\_BaNaNaHoT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TOG_BaNaNaHoT)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/44 "2021-12-12T22:56:48Z")
Personally, I don’t care, I’m a noob at a certain point, nobody always wins, but hey clear my memory and tell me the result ---
**Author:** ![TNCxXchaosxXf2p](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncxxchaosxxf2p/32/34687_2.png) [@TNCxXchaosxXf2p](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCxXchaosxXf2p)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/45 "2021-12-13T00:21:24Z")
man you may not know it but poison is the least dominant then there is sleep and daze is the most dominant not that it is speaking for everyone it has always been like this ---
**Author:** ![TOG\_BaNaNaHoT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tog_bananahot/32/42652_2.png) [@TOG\_BaNaNaHoT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TOG_BaNaNaHoT)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/46 "2021-12-13T01:05:11Z")
Poison is just as dominant as anything else, you just have to know how to use it. ---
**Author:** ![Unholy\_Prem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unholy_prem/32/81598_2.png) [@Unholy\_Prem](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unholy_Prem)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/47 "2021-12-13T01:34:13Z")
Tell me how to use poison apart from endgame . Also apart from the As strats . ---
**Author:** ![TOG\_BaNaNaHoT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tog_bananahot/32/42652_2.png) [@TOG\_BaNaNaHoT](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TOG_BaNaNaHoT)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/48 "2021-12-13T01:41:11Z")
I have found out that before, Poison could be used in the fl, but times change, nowadays there are already many purifiers etc, but this will not make the poison insignificant, I have struggled against people who use poison in the entire team and have managed to beat or win (not just me in less than 500 seconds) is not enough? ---
**Author:** ![Alvarez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/alvarez/32/43007_2.png) [@Alvarez](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Alvarez)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 2:02am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/49 "2021-12-13T02:02:31Z")
U use it Sassolino style lol ---
**Author:** ![TNCxXchaosxXf2p](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncxxchaosxxf2p/32/34687_2.png) [@TNCxXchaosxXf2p](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCxXchaosxXf2p)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/50 "2021-12-13T02:25:52Z")
poison is good but not as strong as sleep or daze ---
**Author:** ![Lacktwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lacktwo/32/34130_2.png) [@Lacktwo](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Lacktwo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/51 "2021-12-13T06:42:43Z")
Lol Poison is even more dominant than stun which you could resist atleast with the immunes. Sleep and stealth are also easily affected by poison. If you take number of poison mons and poison immunes you would easily realize which meta is the most unbalanced in the game. ---
**Author:** ![swabbie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/swabbie/32/48845_2.png) [@swabbie](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/swabbie)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 7:17am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/52 "2021-12-13T07:17:51Z")
Agree, poison is very strong. ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 10:22am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/53 "2021-12-13T10:22:26Z")
> [@TNCxXchaosxXf2p](#): > > I want a more objective view of this or at least I hope so @Killerdog I appreciate the tag, but I have already written loads about this topic in past threads so don’t want to type out essays here. In a nutshell: Stun is very strong but not OP as strong counters exist and we’ve got a good variety of options. I believe that owning those options and building them into your team well deals with stun very effectively… to the point that you don’t feel “restricted when team building” very much. The Devs need to continue to create effective stun protection monsters but, as long as they do, everything should be fine. I also think that the game would be much worse without stun. It’s good having some powerful tools/effects to swing a match if they line up properly. Otherwise it’s really hard to stop someone’s momentum when they’ve got a strong team. ---
**Author:** ![Naomie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/naomie/32/53004_2.png) [@Naomie](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Naomie)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 11:26am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/54 "2021-12-13T11:26:51Z")
too many people spamming stun immunity right now is it still worth nerf stun? 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![DMGInterference](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmginterference/32/50532_2.png) [@DMGInterference](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMGInterference)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/55 "2021-12-13T11:53:26Z")
Make Stun less oppressive and I guarantee you’ll see less Stun Immunity around ---
**Author:** ![NME\_BlackDragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nme_blackdragon/32/80179_2.png) [@NME\_BlackDragon](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NME_BlackDragon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/56 "2021-12-13T14:35:46Z")
> [@TNCxXchaosxXf2p](#): > > I don’t know how to explain that the stun does not affect me and this thread is in favor of diversity I understand that what you’re saying is 100% true but you didn’t give good solutions or nerf ideas that would actually be good considerations. Therefore > [@TNCxXchaosxXf2p](#): > > newer players can learn new ways to play or hone their stun to keep it working but at a higher cost The best solution to bring diversity and give new players ways to hone their skills is to make a special rule that either reduces stun on each monster ( idk if that’s even possible due to coding) or make every monster placed in the team stun immune. ---
**Author:** ![TNCGodZeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncgodzeus/32/31121_2.png) [@TNCGodZeus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCGodZeus)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/57 "2021-12-13T15:11:25Z")
I don’t understand how even though the developers have spent their time gifting us free monsters that can combat stun and have created a bunch of stun immune monsters, we also have stun absorbers of all kinds, martyrs and still people have problems with stun, I think the stun is strong but under control. I am still that the real problem stems from team building and decision-making within the game, I have seen many players of the upper level (top 1 - 100) Use enlist with a single absorb in the field or even without any yet when next on my list of reinforcements a shocking entry abstains, this is just an example and a humble opinion, everyone has a different point of view different but in my opinion the daze a few months ago was much worse and it has been calming down, sometimes if it is even worth playing sturdir ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/randolph/32/27004_2.png) [@Randolph](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/58 "2021-12-13T15:31:41Z")
stun bisector and martyr are great additions to the game stun is nearly in a good position right now - maybe another less narrow bisector would be nice in near future ---
**Author:** ![NMEGaryOak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmegaryoak/32/20469_2.png) [@NMEGaryOak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEGaryOak)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/59 "2021-12-13T16:57:15Z")
Stun Users: Everyone is just SPAMMING stun immunes. Stun Immune Users: Everyone is just SPAMMING stun. It’s a never ending cycle ---
**Author:** ![TNCGodZeus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncgodzeus/32/31121_2.png) [@TNCGodZeus](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCGodZeus)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/60 "2021-12-13T17:49:53Z")
By the way during the season I tried my final for Novadrake alternating between stuns and sleep and the sleep was better as it could stun the immune sapm. Novadrake sleepy to replace the daze was great ---
**Author:** ![DMGInterference](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmginterference/32/50532_2.png) [@DMGInterference](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMGInterference)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/general-stun-nerf/36709/61 "2021-12-13T17:55:07Z")
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