# Fusing - What really happens? **URL:** \ **Category:** FAQ\ **Created:** [December 31, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548 "2013-12-31T22:04:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/1 "2013-12-31T22:04:09Z")
Okay, I have been asked this sooo many times, and people still have conflicting views about this anyways…people claim something about a 50-50 chance. Well, I’ve done those situations soooo many times. And from what I tested for, it’s ALWAYS the higher grade. 179 out of 179. If it really was a 50% chance, then…what is that…0.5^179, right?..if my math doesn’t suck too badly, the chance of that happening is 1 out of 766,247,770,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. It is a 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000013050609% chance…I’m not that lucky. Now then, we can easily do this by assigning number values. I did explain this a looong time ago, but meh…guess it never really caught on. S= 6, A= 5, B= 4, C= 3, D= 2, E= 1 Got it? You need to find the average, and then round. S and A…6+5=11. 11/2=5.5…5 to the sky, 4 to the floor. Rounds to 6, making S. Got it? S+B…6+4=10…10/2=5…makes A. S+S+S+A+B…6+6+6+5+4.=27…27/5=5.4…rounds down to 5, makes A. Several of us have explained this SO many times, yet people still insist on 50/50. Hopefully this clears things up. S+S=S S+A=S A+A=A A+B=A B+B=B B+C=B C+C=C C+D=C D+D=D D+E=D E+E=E S+B=A S+C=A S+D=B S+E=B A+C=B A+D=B A+E=C B+D=C B+E=C C+E=D ---
**Author:** ![Jeannette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/jeannette/32/418_2.png) [@Jeannette](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Jeannette)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/2 "2013-12-31T22:23:04Z")
So that Clarifies it for me lol, always tought it would be 50/50 ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 10:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/3 "2013-12-31T22:28:03Z")
Yep. I just fused 10 more arks today to confirm it. This is on top of all of the other times I have fused. Now that I look back on it, it’s been way more than twenty. 9 Angelon, 6 Omegawyrm (these count as 3 fusions each), 6 Dreadwolf, 4 Tremorback, 13 Plasmorex, 4 Nilomoth, a few OM, and many others…plus the ten today…yeah, I’m very sure of this. I have ALWAYS gotten the higher grade every single time. So yeah…either I should go to vegas, or they are wrong… ---
**Author:** ![Yonfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/yonfire/32/413_2.png) [@Yonfire](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Yonfire)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 10:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/4 "2013-12-31T22:28:42Z")
Has this been pinned yet? =D ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/5 "2013-12-31T22:35:33Z")
Either that, or Jemni will add it to the official FAQ list. It’s incorrect at the moment, so… ---
**Author:** ![Ashley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ashley/32/60_2.png) [@Ashley](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Ashley)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/6 "2013-12-31T23:05:53Z")
It either used to be 50/50 in beta or we had the wrong idea 🙂 I’ll fix the FAQ thread. If anyone gets different results, please say!  ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/7 "2013-12-31T23:10:12Z")
Thanks a lot bud. And I’ve been confirming it countless times since I started this game. I’d go as far as saying I’ve fused more than 99.99% of this community. I only described the noteworthy ones in my last post. And that was only on this file. 😉 I’ll keep fusing, and let you know if I magically get something that goes against this. But again…I just counted again, it’s not 20 at all. It’s more like 70.  That’s a 1 out of 1,180,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance to get that 1/2 chance 70 consecutive times…that’s a 0.000000000000000000000847% chance…And that’s the case. It’s always been the higher grade. So again, I’m very sure of this. ---
**Author:** ![Ashley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ashley/32/60_2.png) [@Ashley](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Ashley)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/8 "2013-12-31T23:14:52Z")
Yes, it must be the case that you’re right. But better safe than sorry.  ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/9 "2013-12-31T23:24:09Z")
Nevermind, just counted. 179 fusions, NOT counting my past save files. That’s 1 out of 766,247,770,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000…also known as 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000013050609% 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kookaburra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kookaburra/32/262_2.png) [@Kookaburra](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Kookaburra)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/10 "2014-01-02T18:49:33Z")
Now I don’t have to cry in worry when fusing my S cherub and my A frostjack. i don’t have an S cherub and an A frostjack that was just an example but i wish i did lol ---
**Author:** ![Ashley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ashley/32/60_2.png) [@Ashley](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Ashley)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/11 "2014-01-02T18:59:38Z")
> That’s 1 out of 766,247,770,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000…also known as 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000013050609% Hey, you never know! Edit: for clarity, I really don’t believe that they coded in a chance as small as that 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kookaburra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kookaburra/32/262_2.png) [@Kookaburra](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Kookaburra)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 7:02pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/12 "2014-01-02T19:02:55Z")
That much is true. It’s not a 0% chance, so… it’s possible. But it’s a large number. Uh, small. ---
**Author:** ![hududle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/hududle/32/401_2.png) [@hududle](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/hududle)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/13 "2014-01-02T22:18:33Z")
Thank you for posting a confirmation to this! I believe it was most likely a 50/50 chance when they were beta testing it, hence the confusion, but I also have tested fusing many times and have found these results to be true. You’re the man Tib! ---
**Author:** ![Noah\_James\_Houston\_J](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noah_james_houston_j/32/2340_2.png) [@Noah\_James\_Houston\_J](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Noah_James_Houston_J)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 12:08am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/14 "2014-01-03T00:08:22Z")
Only I could have that kind of luck! In my fantasies! But yeah. It is almost without a doubt, always grade increase, even on a flock of meese! (Moose plural of course) ---
**Author:** ![Ashley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/ashley/32/60_2.png) [@Ashley](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Ashley)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/15 "2014-01-04T19:42:36Z")
Unpinned this topic. While the information is useful, it is covered in the main pinned FAQ thread now. ---
**Author:** ![Tiberius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tiberius/32/764_2.png) [@Tiberius](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tiberius)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/fusing-what-really-happens/1548/16 "2014-01-06T23:20:12Z")
Sweet. Thanks Ash.