# First One Mythics **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [June 26, 2020, 5:24am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747 "2020-06-26T05:24:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DMG\_LUCKDRAGON](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmg_luckdragon/32/44670_2.png) [@DMG\_LUCKDRAGON](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMG_LUCKDRAGON)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 5:24am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/1 "2020-06-26T05:24:17Z")
Does anyone else think it would be best to get a Mythic Awakening Form for each of the first ones considering they were such a huge part of the main and online story it would be a neat throwback and cool way to reinvigorate those monsters ---
**Author:** ![Tanbeer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tanbeer/32/51776_2.png) [@Tanbeer](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tanbeer)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 6:16am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/2 "2020-06-26T06:16:25Z")
They are strong as Legendary lol… mythic form would be insane Each first one is strong ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 7:32am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/3 "2020-06-26T07:32:04Z")
I agree with both comments. In terms of the story it would make sense, but they are strong already. However they do have a larger form in the story which we don’t have access to I guess ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_Oak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/professor_oak/32/25565_2.png) [@Professor\_Oak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Professor_Oak)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 7:38am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/4 "2020-06-26T07:38:38Z")
Why would u need a mythic form for them ? Did u win a lottery or something ---
**Author:** ![Lasercop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lasercop/32/22065_2.png) [@Lasercop](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Lasercop)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/5 "2020-06-26T14:14:25Z")
Maybe have it Temporary. Like some kind of transformation that can last for a few turns. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/6 "2020-06-26T15:13:37Z")
buffs i had in mind. Zib-Skills cannibalize changes to backstab. Death roulette changes to bloodthrist. Buff damage for double retribution. Passsive insomnia Death revenge Atra-Skills Necromancy to 70tu Passive insomnia to stun immune Raizen-Skills Remove overwatch and give him stealthbane. +increase his attack and lower his defence. Passive Remove insomnia and give him stun counter. metatherion passive insomnia to sleep enterance Terragar More damage on throw Lower double survive to 200 seconds qucik trio to insta 1tu ---
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/7 "2020-06-26T15:43:35Z")
I own these monsters yes plis I want these buffs ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/8 "2020-06-26T16:37:29Z")
Love all of those ---
**Author:** ![MementoMori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mementomori/32/28082_2.png) [@MementoMori](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MementoMori)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:06am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/9 "2020-06-27T01:06:14Z")
Zib and Raizen are OP with those buffs ---
**Author:** ![MementoMori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mementomori/32/28082_2.png) [@MementoMori](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MementoMori)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/10 "2020-06-27T01:07:14Z")
> [@Mr.X](#): > > qucik trio to insta 1tu It’s already instant i think ---
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/11 "2020-06-27T01:16:21Z")
Maybe instead of stun counter make it stun converter and keep cannibalize instead of backstab. ---
**Author:** ![MementoMori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mementomori/32/28082_2.png) [@MementoMori](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MementoMori)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/12 "2020-06-27T01:36:40Z")
I can agree with that ---
**Author:** ![MementoMori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mementomori/32/28082_2.png) [@MementoMori](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/MementoMori)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/13 "2020-06-27T01:37:16Z")
But double retribution is been already buffed ---
**Author:** ![DRACARYS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dracarys/32/34809_2.png) [@DRACARYS](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DRACARYS)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/14 "2020-06-27T03:47:16Z")
They are too strong already as legendaries. A mythical form would imply that the current form of them (which would be the second form of the mythic) had to be edited. This edition, of course, would be to weaken them, since the second form of a mythic is,as a rule, weaker than a legendary. You would have then 90% of the players (which are the ones who could never wake them up), complaining about this. ---
**Author:** ![DRACARYS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dracarys/32/34809_2.png) [@DRACARYS](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DRACARYS)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 3:49am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/15 "2020-06-27T03:49:17Z")
Now, these are nice ideas. ---
**Author:** ![VNchaohunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/vnchaohunter/32/7575_2.png) [@VNchaohunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/VNchaohunter)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 4:42am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/16 "2020-06-27T04:42:03Z")
I agree ---
**Author:** ![Tanbeer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tanbeer/32/51776_2.png) [@Tanbeer](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Tanbeer)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 4:47am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/17 "2020-06-27T04:47:10Z")
First ones are fine. Only Zib needs a good passive (stun Revenge sucks) ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/first-one-mythics/26747/18 "2020-06-27T13:33:46Z")
Atrahasis is amazing and nicely balanced, Bovolcus and Raizen too (the lower attack doesn’t matter in many cases because chrono killer is so strong and timestrike double can scale nicely, it’s difficulty with stealth is simply a balanced weakness). **Terragar** just needs a simple change: **rounded stats -\> standard attack**. (makes throw very powerful and double survivor more viable) **Ziberius** mainly needs to lose stun revenge, but also to have another option rather than cannibalise on the first turn: **stun revenge -\> death revenge** and **death roulette -\> stealth teammate**. **Metatherion** mainly needs extra defence, I think if it was designed today it would have it: **rounded stats -\> full defence** or **rounded stats -\> standard defence + insomnia -\> hold ground**. As for them being made as mythics… I don’t know how I feel about that. Upgrading their movesets without making them OP might be hard and if the Devs simply made a mythic monster for each with a similar style moveset then they may as well be other monsters. I don’t particularly want multiple monsters in the game with the same name because it gets confusing.