# Death Revenge = Payback Revenge? **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [August 28, 2019, 12:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860 "2019-08-28T12:36:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Canisvulpes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/canisvulpes/32/76719_2.png) [@Canisvulpes](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Canisvulpes)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 12:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/1 "2019-08-28T12:36:36Z")
Apollo’s death revenge hits the one that killed it 8 times out of 10, So why not make it payback revenge? ---
**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/2 "2019-08-28T12:45:19Z")
It’s just him. I have noticed that for a while and I’m sure no one’s complaining about it because they like it. But I am suprised @NMEGaryOak is not talking about it. ---
**Author:** ![NMEGaryOak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmegaryoak/32/20469_2.png) [@NMEGaryOak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEGaryOak)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/3 "2019-08-28T14:20:13Z")
> [@Canisvulpes](#): > > Apollo’s death revenge hits the one that killed it 8 times out of 10, So why not make it payback revenge? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/a/6/a68e8b1b48695ac9861a322c5ffbc9739ce3d38a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Canisvulpes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/canisvulpes/32/76719_2.png) [@Canisvulpes](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Canisvulpes)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/4 "2019-08-28T14:35:37Z")
Since he’s my only one, I have to take what I get I suppose ---
**Author:** ![Canisvulpes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/canisvulpes/32/76719_2.png) [@Canisvulpes](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Canisvulpes)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/5 "2019-08-28T14:36:13Z")
Indeed it is, maybe not as much as the egg system though ---
**Author:** ![NoelLemon2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/noellemon2/32/76166_2.png) [@NoelLemon2](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NoelLemon2)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/6 "2019-08-28T14:47:01Z")
yeah single survivor monsters need a small buff because they are out shined by double survivors and that just screams powercreep which is sad. This was one of my favourite monsters when I first started the game: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/neomonstersforum/original/3X/4/e/4ec9f1114ff6382a9bf98a7b6c448f4f03190db6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/7 "2019-08-28T15:12:52Z")
They got buffed by having their TU reduced from 130 to 80… that’s huge! ---
**Author:** ![squinty1880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@squinty1880](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/squinty1880)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/8 "2019-08-28T15:18:35Z")
They could get drain survivor. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/9 "2019-08-28T15:19:36Z")
They still need to be better. You simply cant have a monster on your team that does nothing for 320 sec. The only time i see talo is in void team to give void shield and accelerate. And be used for her ritual skill ---
**Author:** ![squinty1880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@squinty1880](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/squinty1880)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/10 "2019-08-28T15:20:51Z")
Or in an azra team for the same purpose. ---
**Author:** ![KikNaz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kiknaz/32/41664_2.png) [@KikNaz](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/KikNaz)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/11 "2019-08-28T15:23:45Z")
Put him with all that AP Spam. 320 seconds Is nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/12 "2019-08-28T15:24:24Z")
> [@Mr.X](#): > > You simply cant have a monster on your team that does nothing for 320 sec. Chronotitan does exactly this. Geartyrant is also similar in function. These monsters are geared more towards PvE settings, like most monsters who want lots of time to be passed. Apollo and Talo have use in particular PvP teams for the very high speed shield and accelerate. They’re not top-tier PvP monsters but so are most monsters. ---
**Author:** ![NMEGaryOak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmegaryoak/32/20469_2.png) [@NMEGaryOak](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEGaryOak)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/13 "2019-08-28T15:27:45Z")
My original DR team was Stratus Apollo Talo Ultima FL with Auro at 5. Those were the days 😩 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/14 "2019-08-28T16:00:09Z")
Back in my day People were running godfeather along thunder monsters. ---
**Author:** ![Canisvulpes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/canisvulpes/32/76719_2.png) [@Canisvulpes](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Canisvulpes)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/15 "2019-08-28T16:02:28Z")
Spam Accellerate team, with Nova backing him up with Elem Shield Ally and He does a lot more than you think! ---
**Author:** ![Canisvulpes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/canisvulpes/32/76719_2.png) [@Canisvulpes](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Canisvulpes)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/16 "2019-08-28T16:03:25Z")
Ooh look the one that annoyed me when I faced Atrahasis, nice ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/17 "2019-08-28T16:18:59Z")
Thanx i never knew that. ---
**Author:** ![Canisvulpes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/canisvulpes/32/76719_2.png) [@Canisvulpes](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Canisvulpes)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/18 "2019-08-28T16:29:47Z")
You’re welcome! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/mr.x/32/20447_2.png) [@Mr.X](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Mr.X)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/19 "2019-08-28T16:44:31Z")
Oh and i found out that if you use swift cannibalize from azra it becomes a viable strategy just like what @squinty1880 said. ---
**Author:** ![Canisvulpes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/canisvulpes/32/76719_2.png) [@Canisvulpes](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Canisvulpes)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860/20 "2019-08-28T16:45:25Z")
I’ll keep that in mind when I get a cannibalize monster [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/death-revenge-payback-revenge/20860.md?page=2)