# Bye's line-up "heavy army" **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP\ **Created:** [April 26, 2014, 1:43pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/byes-line-up-heavy-army/2656 "2014-04-26T13:43:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Byebye7835](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/byebye7835/32/2864_2.png) [@Byebye7835](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Byebye7835)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2014, 1:43pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/byes-line-up-heavy-army/2656/1 "2014-04-26T13:43:23Z")
Hey there, it’s the first time I post my line-up so be indulgent 🙂 This line-up is using army move with 2 differents types of ark, air and water. triphoon Vortexor Chopperbug Scorpionix Octoneer (recently switch with puffoxin in the back of the line-up) Goldenhorn (previously gigarock) Osiriswyrm Raioh Minespider Cryowyrm Halopard Puffoxin Kami (or subzeratops) Vegitiger (previously stego but too lame with kami) Omegawyrm - It start with army move of Vortexor, or banish + heavy hitter (since I see some water ark this week, this start gave me some advantages) - Next you have octoneer and osiris, the mundane poison eat. -Raioh come to haste and maybe if you can, stun gift. If stun gift work well, it’s almost victory! (I never loose a game if my minespider detonates properly). I switch Gigarock recently for goldenhorn, because my stun skin on gigarock forced myself to sacrifice an ark and the last one is omega …You can imagine my disappointment 🙂 -If you miss the detonate and minespider get killed, one opponent’s ark is stun, and raioh is low TU (if you only use haste with it!) you stun gift cryowyrm, stun opponent and haste reinforce with halopard your cryowyrm (if you have Kami, switch cryo and kami, a hasted/reinforced kami is almost indestructible 😃 ) - I put puffoxin near the end, because I notice that octoneer get killed really easily by dragons at back, so I put puffoxin who get One shot everytime, but he kills an opponent ark when he dies, - Vegitiger near end because I see some gigarock / scorpionix near the end too. - And finaly Omega, nothing to say everyone know how to play with this strong ark 🙂 My best winstreak with this line-up is 47, but sometimes I meet someone with almost the same line-up, and the winner is the one who get first turn with vortexor-triphoon at the beginning. I get beat 2 times by jooky (stego/charc) but I never loose against a stego/charc who haven’t a kami at back, charc get killed everytime after raioh-minespider-osiriswyrm (I think because Gremknight cannot knockback 3 monsters at once maybe). If you have any question or observation, I’m fond of all suggestions you can give me, but I intend to redo a completely different line-up after this OM (since they release my n°2 favourite ark 😃 ) Have a nice play all 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jjchen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@jjchen1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/jjchen1)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2014, 2:04pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/byes-line-up-heavy-army/2656/2 "2014-04-26T14:04:31Z")
I like this lineup, however the one thing i would take out is puffoxin. If I were facing you, unless I was absolutely sure i could win without an arkadion, i wouldn’t attack puffoxin until the end. Without shadowstalker, puffoxin really isn’t all that great without a: shadowstalker or b: a poison eat arkadion. ---
**Author:** ![11118](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/11118/32/1292_2.png) [@11118](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/11118)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2014, 2:22pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/byes-line-up-heavy-army/2656/3 "2014-04-26T14:22:14Z")
nice team, I suppose I met you once and sorry for the crazy BAs TOT~~ ---
**Author:** ![Byebye7835](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/byebye7835/32/2864_2.png) [@Byebye7835](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Byebye7835)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2014, 2:45pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/byes-line-up-heavy-army/2656/4 "2014-04-26T14:45:20Z")
Thanks 🙂 I put puffoxin yesterday to test, and when opponent didn’t hit, I use the move “decay” (-113 def/ -113resistance) and cryowyrm do insame damage. Maybe I’ll give a second chance to subze, I don’t find this ark really good compared to its namesake fire typed (goldenhorn)… ---
**Author:** ![jjchen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@jjchen1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/jjchen1)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/byes-line-up-heavy-army/2656/5 "2014-04-26T14:51:53Z")
> [@Byebye7835](#): > > Thanks 🙂 > > I put puffoxin yesterday to test, and when opponent didn’t hit, I use the move “decay” (-113 def/ -113resistance) and cryowyrm do insame damage. Maybe I’ll give a second chance to subze, I don’t find this ark really good compared to its namesake fire typed (goldenhorn)… subzeratos has chain slow, combine that with cryowyrms army flame. mose of the time cryo would get one move than three of your opponents arks would go due to army frost having high tu cost. with chain slow, the enemy arks willl have high tu cost as well, balancing it out. combined with halopards haste it is lethal. ---
**Author:** ![Janto001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/janto001/32/1022_2.png) [@Janto001](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Janto001)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/byes-line-up-heavy-army/2656/6 "2014-04-28T01:36:56Z")
Hmm… Now that Cyberwurm is out why not replace it for Chopperbug? I know you lose the scramble ability but your starting three will be insane. ---
**Author:** ![jjchen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@jjchen1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/jjchen1)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/byes-line-up-heavy-army/2656/7 "2014-04-28T01:41:40Z")
> [@Janto001](#): > > Hmm… Now that Cyberwurm is out why not replace it for Chopperbug? I know you lose the scramble ability but your starting three will be insane. That’s exactly what i use currently and it has basically no weakness. Triphoon and cyber can destroy any vortexor trying to banish or army flame. Cyber can stasis a stun skin ark so that vortexor uses army wind without killing it, or it can banish. Cyber can timestrike if there is a triphoon or vortexor on the other side. Cyber can stasis a problematic ark. ---
**Author:** ![Byebye7835](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/byebye7835/32/2864_2.png) [@Byebye7835](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Byebye7835)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 11:34am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/byes-line-up-heavy-army/2656/8 "2014-05-01T11:34:55Z")
> [@jjchen1](#): > > That’s exactly what i use currently and it has basically no weakness. > > Triphoon and cyber can destroy any vortexor trying to banish or army flame. Cyber can stasis a stun skin ark so that vortexor uses army wind without killing it, or it can banish. Cyber can timestrike if there is a triphoon or vortexor on the other side. Cyber can stasis a problematic ark. No weakness except a same line up in front 😕 ---
**Author:** ![jjchen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@jjchen1](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/jjchen1)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 11:36am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/byes-line-up-heavy-army/2656/9 "2014-05-01T11:36:12Z")
Pretty much, but that goes for all lineups, if an opponent has the same starting three as you, its normally all about who goes first.