# Auto Protect rework **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters General Discussions\ **Created:** [November 20, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556 "2022-11-20T16:17:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DonT89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@DonT89](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DonT89)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/1 "2022-11-20T16:17:33Z")
Hi guys, I was discussing with @ItsSherlock about some interesting topics about game balance and the discussion came down to AP (Auto Protect). My idea is to rework them in: AP+: 100% chance of blocking attack. AP: 60% chance of blocking attack. AP-: 60% chance of blocking attack but stop being AP if another AP is on the field. The concept is this, AP- cannot be spammed together with any other AP, and the balance will benefit from this. What are your thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![ItsSherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/2 "2022-11-20T16:23:24Z")
I think its a very interesting concept that’s worth being discussed here. Recently we have been seeing a Rise of Pusi again which comes along with a lot of AP Spam. Since AP- would only affect the AP negatively if its spammed together with other APs that’s actually a very interesting concept ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/3 "2022-11-20T16:23:51Z")
It’s like “Protect solo” or how the chads are until they face someone with bigger muscles ---
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/4 "2022-11-20T16:25:15Z")
I think that’s unnecessary. Just make APs not redirect moves directed at other APs and AP+/protect focus/ protect teammates not block moves directed at other guaranteed protectors. ---
**Author:** ![Killerdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/killerdog/32/19206_2.png) [@Killerdog](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Killerdog)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/5 "2022-11-20T16:26:29Z")
I think losing their protect altogether seems a bit too much. They’d need an aggressive moveset or something otherwise the risk of becoming dead weight is great. I reckon it would be better to have their chance of protecting halve if there is a friendly protector on the battlefield… or something along those lines. P.S. Protect chance is 66.7%, not 60% P.P.S. Duck’s change is also something that I think makes a lot of sense and will have a greater impact on facing multiple protectors. ---
**Author:** ![ItsSherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ItsSherlock](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/ItsSherlock)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/6 "2022-11-20T16:27:11Z")
Thats something the community has been demanding since years and it’s obviously not possible or not wanted. So while this is the A+ solution we should move on as it will never happen ---
**Author:** ![DonT89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@DonT89](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DonT89)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/7 "2022-11-20T16:28:45Z")
AP- would be for monsters like shieldragon for example. ---
**Author:** ![DonT89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@DonT89](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DonT89)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/8 "2022-11-20T16:53:35Z")
Mistletorment: AP Geocosma: AP- Arboribratus: AP Megaiasloth: AP- Sanctistag: AP- Aegisdragon: AP+ Shiny Gearcrock: AP- Shieldragon: AP- As Guardian: Bond AP+ FD Salvia: AP Saberzor: AP Titanomoth: AP- Lordsreign: AP- Gearcrock: AP Goldirel/Armadafish/Nimboss/Moltgant/Sandalot/Metallodimus AP- Romanoid AP Musashoid AP- Sherlroid AP Houdinoid AP Spookoid: AP- Bomboid: AP- Meatoid: AP- Diamondoid: AP+ Goldoid AP Alluminoid: AP Bronzoid: AP Rockoid: AP How would you modify this list? ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/9 "2022-11-20T18:02:40Z")
My thoughts on the matter are all of this effort could be focused towards stun entrance instead 😂😂🥳 As you were. ---
**Author:** ![TNCxXchaosxXf2p](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/tncxxchaosxxf2p/32/34687_2.png) [@TNCxXchaosxXf2p](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/TNCxXchaosxXf2p)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/10 "2022-11-20T18:35:12Z")
yes and lunactia can completely lock you out without needing to focus on the team, not to mention how broken that would be skell🤣 ---
**Author:** ![NME\_BlackDragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nme_blackdragon/32/80179_2.png) [@NME\_BlackDragon](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NME_BlackDragon)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 2:24am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/11 "2022-11-21T02:24:29Z")
While theyre at it let ankou dragon reincarnate next in your reinforcements. ---
**Author:** ![keets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5e9695/32.png) [@keets](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/keets)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/12 "2022-11-21T04:48:52Z")
Rock lock is too easy. Give rockoids “Crumble”, a 200sec auto death sentence passive. ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 5:05am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/13 "2022-11-21T05:05:16Z")
Better yet, polymerization! turn 2 rocks into the rockoid ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:31am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/14 "2022-11-21T08:31:20Z")
That would be so OP 😂😂 ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:35am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/15 "2022-11-21T08:35:18Z")
Yes, and I know you love this idea 😂 ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:39am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/16 "2022-11-21T08:39:38Z")
There’s always endgame rocks though. It would be too OP lol ---
**Author:** ![Unown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/unown/32/82733_2.png) [@Unown](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Unown)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/17 "2022-11-21T08:40:48Z")
Would be easy to create 2 types of rocks, the ones summoned by you (current rockoids) and the ones summoned by the enemy (shiny rockoid) 👀 ---
**Author:** ![kabylian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kabylian/32/49574_2.png) [@kabylian](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kabylian)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:14am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/18 "2022-11-21T09:14:11Z")
Why not ? i see it as a necessary , and a lot of us do ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:45am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/19 "2022-11-21T09:45:46Z")
It was just a joke dude @kabylian ---
**Author:** ![kabylian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/kabylian/32/49574_2.png) [@kabylian](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/kabylian)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556/20 "2022-11-21T14:19:59Z")
You sure 🤔, because i know stealth needs Ap to work 😂 [Next page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/auto-protect-rework/41556.md?page=2)