# Aight who needs a buff the most: redux (6★) **URL:** \ **Category:** Neo Monsters\ **Created:** [September 13, 2020, 9:37am UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732 "2020-09-13T09:37:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DMGInterference](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmginterference/32/50532_2.png) [@DMGInterference](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMGInterference)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 1:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732/21 "2020-09-17T13:08:04Z")
Ok, now I’m sure the majority of people voted. I’m glad to see that Ziberius, Azuraidos and Cyclozar are the least voted: I really wanted to see how many morally bankrupt Ziberius owners were there here. I’m surprised to see how many people voted for Ultimadragon, moreso than Kami/Shadowyrm! Is Ultima that bad? I thought he was ok at least. Finally, almost everybody agrees Tridrakhan is pure shid. Almost ¾ of the people voted for it and I think this means it’s inevitable it will be severely buffed in a soon-to-come update. ---
**Author:** ![DevilsMisfortune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/devilsmisfortune/32/30623_2.png) [@DevilsMisfortune](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DevilsMisfortune)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 1:32pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732/22 "2020-09-17T13:32:26Z")
> [@DMGInterference](#): > > I really wanted to see how many morally bankrupt Ziberius owners were there here. The Polareon players are the morally bankrupt ones as it turns out. ---
**Author:** ![DMGInterference](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmginterference/32/50532_2.png) [@DMGInterference](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMGInterference)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732/23 "2020-09-17T13:38:02Z")
Also true. Polareon doesn’t really deserve a buff with that SS ---
**Author:** ![Phantom00](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/phantom00/32/34461_2.png) [@Phantom00](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Phantom00)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 2:08pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732/24 "2020-09-17T14:08:12Z")
> [@DMGInterference](#): > > I thought he was ok at least. Ultima is a big victim of power creep; used to be one of the best legends in the game due to its diverse yet powerful moveset, but that was back at the very beginning. As of today, it’s too damn slow to get going. ---
**Author:** ![DMGInterference](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/dmginterference/32/50532_2.png) [@DMGInterference](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/DMGInterference)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732/25 "2020-09-17T14:11:20Z")
Oh. I always see him as a threat because of my terrible Death Revenge luck and the fact he has a decent moveset on top of that ---
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732/26 "2020-09-17T14:33:42Z")
Ultimadragon is the worst stun immune monster in the game. It enters the field and immediately becomes dead weight under almost all circumstances, which is a huge accomplishment given its stun immunity. ---
**Author:** ![squinty1880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@squinty1880](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/squinty1880)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732/27 "2020-09-17T14:35:59Z")
It should have stun wave ---
**Author:** ![Escanor.10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/escanor.10/32/54669_2.png) [@Escanor.10](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Escanor.10)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732/28 "2020-09-17T15:28:04Z")
IMO Just Increase ultima speed around 70 to 75% or maybe higher then It’s good to go I guess! ---
**Author:** ![NMEduck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/nmeduck/32/32018_2.png) [@NMEduck](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/NMEduck)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732/29 "2020-09-17T15:39:28Z")
Maybe they could give it bloodcrave/bloodfury, increase it’s speed a tiny bit but not too much, and decrease the tu on stun flash bc stun wave was already given to heavenswyrm. ---
**Author:** ![VNchaohunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/vnchaohunter/32/7575_2.png) [@VNchaohunter](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/VNchaohunter)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732/30 "2020-09-17T16:00:00Z")
Swift caniblaze + stun flash = 300s . I think he still good ---
**Author:** ![Escanor.10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/escanor.10/32/54669_2.png) [@Escanor.10](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/Escanor.10)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732/31 "2020-09-17T16:01:49Z")
Well! giving him bloodcrave/bloodfury is a bit suicidal cause then he charge his bloodmove only in 45 tu and also make a good setup for retribution and revenge moves plus top of that he has DR, nobody wants to make him their prior target. ---
**Author:** ![LemonSqueezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/www.neomonstersforum.com/lemonsqueezy/32/17699_2.png) [@LemonSqueezy](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/u/LemonSqueezy)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732/32 "2020-09-17T16:07:53Z")
Didn’t get a chance to vote. Zhulong definitely wants a buff. Slight damage increase on Cyclo. Shadow and Kami just need a second passive but nothing too major. Tridakhan deserves the #1 spot. [Previous page](https://www.neomonstersforum.com/t/aight-who-needs-a-buff-the-most-redux-6/28732.md?page=1)